--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 10/12/06 5:10 PM, abutilon108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I had been quite captivated by her for some time, but finally 
> > came to feel that she had a way of producing experiences in 
> > people which they took for "awakening".  Of course, everyone 
> > has a different idea of what awakening is, and I do also wonder 
> > what Rick meant when he said people had awakened with her (and 
> > also what evidence there is for that awakening.)  
> 
> I¹m just going by what a few friends have told me, the Nick 
> Wolfe tape Tom Traynor referred to, Amber Terrell¹s book, etc. 
> I have no first-hand experience with her. I think there are 
> many levels of awakening, some permanent, some not. I have no 
> idea what she is able to trigger in people.

I have to quibble language here, having had a short
(two days) interaction with her. At least at that
time, she was adamant that she does *nothing* to
"trigger" awakening in those who sit satsang with
her. That is, she doesn't zap them with kundalini
or darshan or flying woo woo rays or any of the 
things that lazy seekers would like teachers to do.
She's just good at interacting with the seeker to
point out the realization that is already present.

That said, the awakening that many experience is
often temporary. I don't consider that a bad thing,
because it later becomes permanent as they become
more comfortable with their own realization.

> That probably depends a lot on them. But she strikes me as 
> a good, sincere person who has uplifted many. Just one of 
> many making a contribution. Take what you need and leave 
> the rest.

Yup. 






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