--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Although I have an obvious bias towards the hypnosis theory 
> > > perspective on my own subjective experiences in TM over MMY's 
> > > version, I am aware that there is a whole lot more interesting 
> > > consciousness expansion information in these ancient systems.
> > > If we can get beyond the words used there is much to be
> > > learned from both perspectives that could be valuable.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your response.  This topic fascinates me and
> > > any insights you or anyone else wants to share would be
> > > appreciated.
> > 
> > Just as a data point, I'm one of those people who
> > is extremely resistant to hypnosis, but that didn't
> > seem to interfere with my TM experience.
> > 
> > It may or may not be relevant in this context that
> > I had very little success generating alpha waves
> > on an EEG machine when I took a biofeedback course
> > (pre-TM).  There was a distinct element of what I
> > think you would call "hypnotic induction" in the
> > instructions.
> > 
> > And a caveat:  You're coming awfully close to using
> > "hypnosis" to mean "anything that alters one's state
> > of consciousness."  The broader you make your use of
> > the term, the less meaningful it becomes, and the less
> > useful for drawing the kinds of distinctions you're
> > looking to make.
> >
> 
> There's no general concensus on how hypnosis affects the brain.
However, none of the 
> studies claiming to show a consistent physical effect for hypnosis
that I glanced at showed 
> the same EEG coherence pattern as TM.

Why doesn't Fred/ MUM / anyone use brain imaging technology for
studies? EEG seems so primitive compared to what is available.

Is it just cost? With donors kicking up `12mil / year, long-run, it
would seem a decent brain image machine could be leased / rented,
begged for, collaborated on, etc. if the effects are as substanial as
you believe, clear 3-D, high res, color, continuous images of thalmus,
and other areas, would rock the research world. And funding    wnd
indpendent studies would sky-rocket.








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