--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > <snip>
> > Re "darshan":
> > 
> > > Why I prefer my "recognition theory" is because it puts
> > > the responsibility and the impetus for self realization
> > > where it belongs, in the lap of the *seeker*, not the
> > > teacher.
> > 
> > "Did you ever consider the possibility that the
> > reason [MMY] keeps himself aloof is that he has
> > no darshan to give? The further away he keeps
> > people, the longer it takes them to figure it
> > out. The closer he keeps them (the skinboys,
> > for example), the sooner they figure it out
> > and beat feet."
> > 
> > --Barry, post #118682
> 
> You must feel that there is an inconsistency here.
> I don't. In that post, I was using the term "darshan"
> because it was already being used in the thread, if
> I remember correctly. The *subjective* experience 
> is the same whether one believes that the teacher is 
> "giving" "darshan" or whether one believes that the 
> effect one feels is due to recognition.
> 
> In either case, in my experience, Maharishi ain't
> got what it takes.

Sez Barry, putting the responsibility where it
belongs, in the lap of the *seeker*, not the
teacher.

<snicker>



 So the closer one works with him
> over a long period of time, the sooner one might 
> figure that out. The further away one stays, the 
> longer one can believe in *either* darshan *or* 
> him being someone with whom one could benefit from 
> recognition.
> 
> I have no *problem* with inconsistency, as you
> are the first to point out. But I wasn't being
> inconsistent here. Try again. And if you can't
> find an actual example, you can always call me
> a phony again.  :-)
>





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