--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" jyouells@ wrote:
> >
> > Turq,
> > I used to (and occassionally still do)  be  able to go from waking
> > to awake and out of the body with no break in awareness. To confirm
> > this, my wife and I used to project together and then compare
> > experience. She did have a tendency to get distracted by the local
> > pizza parlors though... :-)  It is quite an eye-opener...
>
> We weren't into the OBE thing per se. The idea was
> to wake up in the dream and find your way in the
> dream plane to the location that the "meeting" was
> supposed to be going on. There we'd meet up with
> Rama and hear a talk or do koans or fight demons
> or whatever was on the agenda for that evening.
> As you say, an eye-opener, comparing notes the next
> day with folks you'd had conversations with the night
> before in the dream, finding out that they had the
> same memories of the "event" that you did. More things
> in heaven and earth, Horatio...and all that...
>

It's that kind of shared experience that testable, verifiable,  and 
doesn't lend  itself  to  explanations  involving  hypnosis, even if
hypnosis is used to induce the experience initially.

JohnY





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