--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/26/06 12:17:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > (Say, why didn't all those intelligent Jews who > thought Jesus was Messiah not riot when he was > crucified? And why did they choose Barrabas > over Jesus to be released?) > > > If I indicted any stupidity it was on the part > > of the Sanhedrin, not the Jewish people as you > > have tried twist and turn my comment to mean. > > Uh-huh. All the Jews recognized that Jesus was > Messiah, leaving the poor benighted Sanhedrin > twiddling its thumbs. That's why there aren't > any more Jews left today, they were all smart > enough to convert to the Jesus movement. Right? > > (You know why most Jews did not and do not believe > Jesus was Messiah, don't you?) > > A bought and paid for crowd organized during his trial before the Sanhedrin > in the middle of the night. By the time he was tried, beaten, convicted, > sentenced and on his way to calvary, lead by Roman soldiers, much of Jerusalem > was unaware what was happening.
I have no idea what this has to do with why the Jews who thought Jesus was Messiah didn't choose Barabbas over Jesus or riot during the crucifixion. I never said, as you imply, that *all* Jews > recognized Jesus as Messiah, many did, many had hopes he was. But, as those > that saw the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 lead away to his death their hopes > would have been dashed as most Jews have been taught the Messiah would be a > great king that brought peace, a political leader. Right, they believe what the Torah says about the Messiah. The Sanhedrin had a lot of > damage control to deal with and persecuted the early church members. The > early church was entirely Jewish before it spread to the gentile. The first 13 > Popes were all Jewish . The early Jewish church scattered from Jerusalem as > they were warned by Christ to do as the Romans came to destroy Jerusalem and > dispersal began. No idea how you think this is relevant. I have heard several Messianic Jews explain several arguments, > they reject, against the recognition of Jesus the Messiah. Well, of course they have arguments! They couldn't convert to Christianity if they didn't have arguments against the idea that Jesus could not have been their Messiah. They happen to be spurious if not fraudulent, but that's another issue. I'm asking if you know what arguments the "Messianic Jews" (a contradiction in terms, BTW) are attempting to address: Why do most Jews believe Christ could not possibly have been the Messiah prophesied in their scriptures? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
