--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I want to know if they got in with H1-B visas as spiritual
> programmers.
> Or could they be the beginnings of a new fund raising caste?

I think the latter is a given, right? They're the 
TMO's "Jerry's Kids."

The visa thing, however, *would* be good to know
the details of. I used to work in NYC with any 
number of Indians who had been brought over to 
the US by their relatives. The relatives were
billing these guys' services to Chase Manhattan
Bank for $50 an hour while paying them $5 an hour
and putting them up in the YMCA. The poor guys
who were being treated like this were afraid to
say anything or do anything because their relatives
had convinced them that under the conditions of
their visas they could *not* seek other work or
doing anything other than what their bosses (in
this case their sleazy relatives) said.

We (me and a few other programmers) did the home-
work for them and found out the real details of
their visa situation and sat them all down and
told them the truth. As a result, most of these
guys were able to renegotiate their own direct
contracts with Chase Manhattan, and tell their
relatives to go fuck themselves. We also informed
Chase Manhattan what the relatives were doing and
the bank reacted by taking them off the "approved
providers" list. Sometimes things work out the
way you'd like them to.

Anyway, I think "it would be good" :-) if someone
found out what the visas these guys arrived here
under really say, just in case any of them get
tired of generating Woo Woo Rays, and are prevented
from doing so by those they trust.






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