--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Guru > > Dev came out from his mountain cave to restore proper meditation, > the > > centerpiece of Vedic culture, and those pundits and others who are > > practicing TM will be operating from a level of consciousness > where > > activity, whether it is ordinary or doing the yagyas, will be > > effective because the actors have expanded their awareness, not > made > > themselves even duller with ineffective and boring meditation > > techniques.
There's no evidence that Guru Dev promoted some new proper meditation to restore vedic civilization, in fact the evidence is to the contrary, no one in guru dev's ashram report learning TM or some such new meditation from him. TM is something MMY came up with long after guru dev was gone, so guru dev should be left out of this particular debate. The theory that religious rituals are more meaningful or effective if the practitioner is in a heightened state of awareness makes sense, though I might phrase it differently to emphasize devotion instead, but I would take issue with the assertion that learning TM automatically gives a person expanded awareness that enables them to send global transforming rays throughout the universe - we have lots of 30+ yrs meditators in this town as evidence to the contrary. The vast vast majority of 30+ yr meditators don't have success with the sutras so why would new meditators be experts at yagyas. My main pt on this issue though is really just an emotional reaction to the emerging groupthing here that all our individual problems and even kali yuga itself are on the way out because of some pundit boys moving to the US -- people can believe in their vedic civilization revival if they want but I bet many of them have spent much of their lives in similar games of magical thinking and denial. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
