All of the cells in the human body die and are born in regular cycles.
But in addition to this we all have phases. Have you ever looked at your baby pictures, or picutures from childhood? Do you realize that the people in those pictures dont exist anymore. You exist but the body that was the 5 year old is no longer and will mostprobably never be again. This can be considered a form of death. Highschool may have been great maybe you played some sport, were involved with some theater, had your first girlfriend or boyfriend, whatever that guy went away. The moment you passed the the next phase the old phase was gone. It exist yes, but only in memory. You died.
Another way as with TM. I was once in a forrest academy and I had a very scary unstressing experience. I was meditating and all of the breath went out of my body. Then another breath took over. I was still no breathing but a different kind of breath that was as if my whole body was breathing. I thought I was possesed but the more I tried to think the more painful. I had to surrender. I thought I was possessed. Ah Ha! I thought TM is BULLSHIT. ALL LIES I thought they say all of this about life I just died. I thought I had died in meditation.
My whole group went out of the room they thought I was flipping. Another off the wall statement. Anyway that was another way to die. Yet now at nearly 50 those days are memories of another life. Today I live in Brasil then I lived in Iowa. The one good thing about living many lifetimes in one body is that I can still call home. Have you ever tried to call a dead relative? Not easy. Well atleast when you live many lifetimes in one body you can still call home.
Maybe one day we will be able to communicate with our dead in this same way.
Some people you can see in their palms they two life lines on one palm. Some will show in their charts that they burn oof much karma in one phase of their life and the other phase is without negative karma. Our individual daily life is a reflection of our macro life.
The idea is to burn the karma while in one body so anything you do after is simply conscious choice.
On the physical your body is birthing and dying everyday......
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From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:19:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:19:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did
> > > > not understand what the word meant. I have always thought
> > > > of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you
> > > > said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not
> > > > reborn. I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian
> > > > this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like
> > > > moving from one house to the other. <snip excellent story>
> > >
> > > Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described
> > > in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not
> > > just describing what happens when you actually die.
> > > The same process applies to the continual death and
> > > rebirth of the self during a single incarnation.
> >
> > That is an interesting concept. What do you mean by
> > continual death and rebirth during a single incarnation?
>
> Ok, this is probably going to take some "setting up."
>
> The basic concept is that we, as humans and as seekers,
> do not have a fixed self. We have millions of them. As
> Walt Whitman said, "I contain multitudes."
>
> Given this assumption, what many people see as the 'self'
> growing and learning from experience and changing over
> the years some Buddhists view more as one self dying
> and another becoming active. 'Self' itself is viewed
> as the decision to access and dwell in a particular
> state of attention. Move to another state of attention
> and that self dies and is replaced with another equally
> illusory self more appropriate to the new state of
> attention.
>
> What I'm suggesting is that another way to view the
> process of "growing up," one that doesn't depend on
> the notion of a fixed self, is to view self discovery
> as a continual series of deaths and rebirths. One self
> is left behind and the next becomes predominant, until
> it's time for that one to be left behind, too.
>
> *If* one looks at life that way, and thinks in those
> terms, the Tibetan Book of the Dead takes on whole new
> levels of meaning. The descriptions of the Bardo transits
> can be seen in terms of things that happen to us day by
> day in this lifetime, and not solely in terms of what
> happens to us during the actual transit from physical
> death to new physical life.
>
Makes sense. Certainly, the concept of deep-sleep-as-mini-death goes along with this. Of
course, you take it to its ultimate extreme: each span of attention is a micro-life complete
with micro-self.
That is very MMY-esque of you actually.
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> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did
> > > > not understand what the word meant. I have always thought
> > > > of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you
> > > > said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not
> > > > reborn. I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian
> > > > this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like
> > > > moving from one house to the other. <snip excellent story>
> > >
> > > Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described
> > > in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not
> > > just describing what happens when you actually die.
> > > The same process applies to the continual death and
> > > rebirth of the self during a single incarnation.
> >
> > That is an interesting concept. What do you mean by
> > continual death and rebirth during a single incarnation?
>
> Ok, this is probably going to take some "setting up."
>
> The basic concept is that we, as humans and as seekers,
> do not have a fixed self. We have millions of them. As
> Walt Whitman said, "I contain multitudes."
>
> Given this assumption, what many people see as the 'self'
> growing and learning from experience and changing over
> the years some Buddhists view more as one self dying
> and another becoming active. 'Self' itself is viewed
> as the decision to access and dwell in a particular
> state of attention. Move to another state of attention
> and that self dies and is replaced with another equally
> illusory self more appropriate to the new state of
> attention.
>
> What I'm suggesting is that another way to view the
> process of "growing up," one that doesn't depend on
> the notion of a fixed self, is to view self discovery
> as a continual series of deaths and rebirths. One self
> is left behind and the next becomes predominant, until
> it's time for that one to be left behind, too.
>
> *If* one looks at life that way, and thinks in those
> terms, the Tibetan Book of the Dead takes on whole new
> levels of meaning. The descriptions of the Bardo transits
> can be seen in terms of things that happen to us day by
> day in this lifetime, and not solely in terms of what
> happens to us during the actual transit from physical
> death to new physical life.
>
Makes sense. Certainly, the concept of deep-sleep-as-mini-death goes along with this. Of
course, you take it to its ultimate extreme: each span of attention is a micro-life complete
with micro-self.
That is very MMY-esque of you actually.
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