--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip to>
> > > I think I speak for many people here in saying that
> > > all we're asking is for these three to CATCH A
> > > FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that what they are doing
> > > is socially unacceptable. 
> > > 
> > > A CHILD would have heard the feedback they'd received
> > > from their peers by this time and made some attempt
> > > to change their unaccpetable behavior. Why haven't 
> > > these three?
> > 
> > I'm sorry but I don't see what they are doing as a problem. I 
find 
> > enough worthwhile content here to be interested, and if I wasn't 
I'd 
> > go elsewhere. The vibe of this place is such that anything is 
> > accepted. That is its charter. So your unhappiness over these 
three 
> > posters is OK, just as their continued posting is OK.
> 
> I have no problem with that. But you've been here
> a while. In my long post I was presenting the case
> for what such (IMO) compulsive overposting does to 
> the potential *newbie*, to someone who has not yet 
> had a chance to see whether this forum contains 
> interesting material, and who may never get to see 
> that if they are turned off in their first visit.

Barry's in full-blown grasping-at-straws mode.

The notion that regular contributors to a forum
should change their posting habits for the sole
purpose of attracting some imaginary newbie--
especially when that forum already has oogobs of
members--makes no sense at all.

Plus which, a newbie who decides on the basis
of a single visit to a forum like this one that
it contains no interesting material would have
to be a newbie to electronic forums in general.

If I were a newbie casing this forum (or any 
other), I'd make several visits over the course
of a couple of weeks before making up my mind,
because I know that with this kind of group,
the topics and posters vary widely from day to
day.

> > I have seen successful attempts at changing the discourse
> > on this forum numerous times, and I observe that it results
> > from coming up with something engaging and stimulating, vs.
> > attempting to censor anyone.
> 
> I agree. But failing that :-), I was just trying one
> more time to appeal to the human being inside the
> compulsive poster. I'll do it one last time and then
> let the subject drop.

It's about time.  You'd have made a better impression
if you had just presented your arguments once or twice,
cogently, and then kicked back and allowed others to
do the same.

<snip>
> And Judy, you're more intelligent than to really
> believe that you actually win when you think that
> you "win." You'd make a better impression if you just
> presented your arguments once or twice, cogently, and
> then kicked back and allowed others to do the same.
> Your tendency to treat each opinion that is contrary
> to yours as an opportunity (and, truly, a *need*) to 
> "win" some imagined battle undercuts the real and 
> valuable things you have to say.

This is your *fantasy* about me, Barry.

And I don't post for the purpose of making a good
impression, I post for the purpose of expressing
myself and engaging in discussion.

> To all of you, if you tried to limit yourselves to
> ten posts a day, you would *still* be posting more
> than anyone else here. But I think that at that point
> the subject of your "overposting" would never again 
> come up, and you'd have gained some respect from
> your peers in the process.

If gaining respect were what we're here for, that is.

As I mentioned awhile back in response to another one
of Barry's "overposting" rants, this is the *only*
electronic forum I've ever been on in over 20 years of
participation where contributors came in for criticism
for making "too many" posts.

<snip>
> > PS I do find your posted % of posters thing interesting.
> 
> I think it's fascinating, too. When new.morning first
> posted the statistics on the most prolific posters,
> I was shocked and embarrassed to find myself near the
> top. I have endeavored to lower my standing ever since.
> Having to keep saying stuff like this, to adults who
> should have been able to hear it long ago, does not
> help in that endeavor.  :-)

PSSSST, Barry: You never *had* to say stuff like this,
not even once, let alone repeat it over and over
relentlessly.





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