new.morning wrote: > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> new.morning wrote: >> >> There are two schools of astrology: the academic and the intuitive. >> Some people can just look at a chart and with no deep training in the >> myriad of rules (most created by court astrologers trying to keep >> > people > >> from threatening their position by obfuscating it) and give good >> predictions. >> > > I agree there is intuitive jyotish. And even that may be the "real" > jyotish at advanced stages. One beoming attuned to the actual "light" > of jyotish. > > I had a quite deep and accurate reading by what I assume was and > intuitive in Benares. He did a quick chart from his head, scribbled it > out, then proceeded to tell me a lot or things true about my past, > parents, etc. And some prediction that were dead on. And a lot of > unactionable generalities. :) > > Another jyotishi I met, hindi, needing translator, was quite clear in > hindi -- which I don't speak -- though I know a number of jyotish > terms. I just focussed on him, got what he was saying, and just waved > the traslator off because the reptition in english was not necessary. > > > But for software, I was referring to "academic jyotish". There is > enough in it whereby a strong software/IA approach could created > reasonable, integrated assessments. > > >> The academic school on the other hand is often populated >> by egotists >> > > Though not exclusively. I have met some quite humble ones. > > >> trying to impress people with their mastering of the "bridge >> rules" of astrology. Often their predictions go awry. They also like >> to lambaste an intuitive when they point out a point or two in the >> > chart > >> that is the basis for their prediction in that "all elements must be >> taken into account" and when "all elements were taken into account" >> > > People do the same to SA -- which has boiled down a few essential > rules. I know some who swear by SA. It seems to produce some good > readings. > > >> And you are correct, Jyotish provides a propensity for events just like >> a weather report. But look at the "black and white" astrologers who >> believe the moment you go from one dasha to the next everything changes >> like it was a solid line written in sand. >> > > Yes. Though looking back I have found some specific turning points in > my life, occuring at dasha changes. Maybe it was the straw that brok > the camels back. Others mid way through. > > >> I like to recall the (not so) Amazing Randi's little experiment with >> astrology charts where he gave out readings (newspaper style) to a >> > group > >> and they claimed they fit. >> > > Sagan did a similar really ignorant thing in one of his books, > "disproving" astrology (western). > > The few studies I have seen on astrology have had big laws, IMO. > > >> My experience is that if he had an >> astrologer prepare reading just based on the ascendant for each >> individual those who got the wrong ascendant would have said "this does >> not fit me at all." It's not an exacting science but good enough to >> spot trends that might be problematic or even advantages.out of the >> practice >> > > Sometimes I find speculations emerging about what jytotish combination > is "creating" some particular characteristic in someone. This list is > a ripe field. :) One can thus, predict backwards, or reverse engineer > a personality or event. Like in mundane jyotish -- sudden change in > leadership. Sounds like rahu and sun to me. And by golly they are up > to something in current transits. Look at your Rahu transits of your houses and see if the theme from that house it played out did or did not play out during that period of time.
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