--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 2006, at 4:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >> Yep, and one wonders what it is--I would guess some kind of
> >> security.  Gotta be *some* payoff for all that boredom.
> >
> > Don't suppose it could have anything to do with
> > benefits from doing program, could it?
> 
> You really think they get more benefits than those of us who do it 
and 
> aren't on it, Judy?  I just don't see any evidence of that.  
Between 
> sickness, crying jags that last for weeks, supposedly, and 
constant 
> pleas to their friends for $$, I'd say they probably get less.
> 
> Sal
>

Its interesting, this phenomenon where people in groups dedicated to 
TM, meditating and turning inward, lose their energy, get depressed, 
and become less successful.

My experience is that TM is a victim of its own efficiency in this 
regard. As a very efficient technique for transcending, use of the 
TM technique leads quickly and reliably to a direct experience of 
the Self, the impersonal infinite foundation to life. With this 
emphasis on TM, those on MD and THP confront what I call the 'charm 
war' very quickly. This charm war manifests itself as no less than 
the battle to the death between the self, who we are accustomed to 
being, and the Self. Each is dedicated to killing the other.

Anyone having a long-term interest in spiritual pursuits builds up 
in waking state a number of stories regarding Self-realization or 
enlightenment, what enlightened life is like, how to act, what to 
do, etc. Unfortunately for such stories, TM efficiently provides the 
direct experience.

I recall facing this disconnect between what I was hearing, 
believing and most importantly interpreting about enlightened life, 
and my direct experience of the Self. I was literally at war with 
myself, making ever more complex stories to justify myself on the 
one hand, and my experience of my Self during TM. I became stiff, 
angry and depressed.

Only when I began feeling what was going on and taking many many 
careful chances to break out of this inadvertent trap did I regain 
the limitless energy provided by TM. Until that occurs, these folks 
on MD and THP will remain at war with themselves, suffering from 
depression and lack of success.




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