--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- jyouells2000 <jyouells@> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > > <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I called the Art of Living center in Boulder
> > > > > Colorado and spoke with
> > > > > an individual who said that the Art of Living
> > > > > meditation technique is
> > > > > different than the TM technique. He also said
> > > that
> > > > > there is an
> > > > > emphasis on krias (purification practices) and
> > > > > pranayama in
> > > > > conjunction with meditation. The meditation is
> > > > > called SaHaj in which
> > > > > the attention is put on the heart along with the
> > > use
> > > > > of a mantra as
> > > > > opposed to TM in which the mantra is
> > > effortlessly
> > > > > repeated with
> > > > > transcending naturally occurring. To say that
> > > both
> > > > > techniques are
> > > > > identical according to this individual is
> > > incorrect.
> > > > > He knows because
> > > > > he was a TMer and learned SaHaj as taught by the
> > > Art
> > > > > of Living also.
> > > > > So at this point, I've decided to go with TM for
> > > my
> > > > > daughter and hope
> > > > > she likes it and sticks to it. This individual
> > > also
> > > > > mentioned that
> > > > > there is no tension between Shankar and MMY,
> > > that
> > > > > MMY support
> > > > > everything Shankar is doing. He also said that
> > > > > prices are negotiable,
> > > > > students pay half the price and that there is no
> > > > > problem if someone
> > > > > cannot afford to pay at all. He said that
> > > Shankar
> > > > > was a secretary of
> > > > > MMY's and when he became enlightened, MMY
> > > encourage
> > > > > Shankar to go off
> > > > > and teach with MMY's blessing. That according to
> > > > > this person I spoke
> > > > > with, there never was a problem with MMY and
> > > > > Shankar. I get the
> > > > > impression that many of the TMers who went with
> > > this
> > > > > group were
> > > > > looking for a more personal relationship with a
> > > > > master/organization
> > > > > which is what it sounds like, like what the TM
> > > > > organization was back
> > > > > in the 60s early 70s, loosely conducted with a
> > > Guru
> > > > > who is very
> > > > > assessable. Mark
> > > >
> > > > SM is an advanced TM technique. And again, SM is
> > > how
> > > > MMY taught initiators to teach TM to Indians.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Pete, Has SSRS trained teachers yet, or is he using
> > > cast-off TM teachers
> > > for SM?
> > > 
> > > JohnY
> > 
> > I was told that SSRS only allows former TM teachers to
> > teach SM.
> 
> So much for their pledge to only teach as MMY and the TMO have
authorized...
>
After being de-certified, how can that pledge be applied? They aren't
TM teachers anymore, They are teaching for Art of Living. They were
thrown overboard for a quick buck ....  Look at your devotion to your
own practice... then judge.

JohnY


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