--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" jyouells@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/15/06 11:09:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > > > msilver1951@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > called  the Art of Living center in Boulder Colorado and spoke
> with
> > > > > an individual  who said that the Art of Living meditation
> > > technique is
> > > > > different than the  TM technique. He also said that there is an
> > > > > emphasis on krias  (purification practices) and pranayama in
> > > > > conjunction with meditation. The  meditation is called SaHaj in
> which
> > > > > the attention is put on the heart  along with the use of a
> mantra as
> > > > > opposed to TM in which the mantra is  effortlessly repeated with
> > > > > transcending naturally occurring. To say that  both techniques
> are
> > > > > identical according to this individual is incorrect.  He knows
> > > because
> > > > > he was a TMer and learned SaHaj as taught by the Art of  Living
> also.
> > > > > So at this point, I've decided to go with TM for my daughter 
> and
> > > hope
> > > > > she likes it and sticks to it. This individual also mentioned 
> that
> > > > > there is no tension between Shankar and MMY, that MMY support
> > > > > everything Shankar is doing. He also said that prices are
> > > negotiable,
> > > > > students pay half the price and that there is no problem if
> someone
> > > > > cannot afford to pay at all. He said that Shankar was a
> secretary of
> > > > > MMY's and when he became enlightened, MMY encourage Shankar to
> go
> > > off
> > > > > and teach with MMY's blessing. That according to this person I
> spoke
> > > > > with, there never was a problem with MMY and Shankar. I get the
> > > > > impression that many of the TMers who went with this group were
> > > > > looking for a more personal relationship with a
> master/organization
> > > > > which is what it sounds like, like what the TM organization was
> back
> > > > > in the 60s early 70s, loosely conducted with a Guru who is very
> > > > > assessable. Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark, have you ever gotten any TM advanced  techniques?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >  A couple of points:
> > > >
> > > > the description of advanced techniques I see is verbotten by MMY
> > > because it destroys
> > > > innocence. The specific description of something having to do with
> > > the heart has been
> > > > discredited by several people, and I remember the exact words used
> > > by my advanced
> > > > techniquesteacher and it  isn't what everyone says it is anyway.
> > > >
> > > > While it is possible that different people were taught in
> different
> > > ways by advanced
> > > > techniques teachers, this seems less than likely given how rigid
> > > MMY's teacher-teaching
> > > > methods have been over the years.
> > > >
> > > Spair,
> > >   You're talking about stuff you know very little about.
> > > 'nuff said.
> > >
> >
> > And you know more? Were you an advanced techniques teacher, perhaps?
> 
> "And you know more?" Yes, I do.
> You're holding on to some unrealistic ideas about rigidity.
>

Perhaps.


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