"You can tell him that Dr. Sun and Fun wants to know. He'll know who I am with that comment and probably laugh."
Did those used to be your "safe words" with John? --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll give a more civil response. The methodology > is all screwed-up. First there is no control. What > functions as the control? Why do they even mention the > word "controlled"? In fact this type of research can > have no control. You would use a design that is called > "interrupted time series analysis". Basically it's > measure trends over unit of time; intervention in > effect and measure trends over unit of time; then no > intervention and measure trends over unit of time. You > do this over and over again. Turning the intervention > on and off, so to speak, and measuring your trends > with the intervention present and then when it is > absent. Then you crunch your numbers to see if there > are statistically significant differences within and > between these on and off cycles. Simply measuring > trends and then applying the intervention and seeing > the trends improve means absolutely nothing in social > science research. Its like hiring 100 extra police > officers for two months and then seeing the crime rate > drop. It does not mean that the extra officers caused > the crime rate to drop. The crime rate could have been > dropping or increasing or staying the same regardless > of the police officers. That is, what is causing the > change in crime rate could have nothing to do with the > police officers. The TM research on the ME, in this > case, is the same as seeing a car crah after you've > sneezed and then claiming your sneeze caused the car > to crash. The only way to know if your sneeze causes > car crashes is to count car crashes without sneezes, > then count them while sneezing, then without and so > forth. > Just so people know, I'd love for there to be a > ME. It would be so absolutely cool. But outside of the > one DC study which demonstrated a very, very slight ME > (and even that is generous) these "studies" are the > equivalent of a 4th grade science experiment. They are > junk science and it is truly a shame. I think the > reason they don't do a time series analysis is that > they are quite concerned that it would show nothing. > If anyone on the course is reading this, please ask > John Hagelin why an interupted time series analysis is > not used to measure the ME. You can tell him that Dr. > Sun and Fun wants to know. He'll know who I am with > that comment and probably laugh. > > --- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, after reading Thom Krysto's Weekly Reader > > article about how the > > TMorg sanitizes things to their own benefit, who > > would you believe > > more here about this PR science report? Dr. Pete's > > review on FFL or > > Ken Chawkins of the MUM public relations department > > with this press > > release of the MUM public relations department? > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > <drpetersutphen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This is called PR science. It is a pile of shit > > and > > > any serious scientist knows it. I'd love to see > > them > > > try to publish this "research". What a joke. It is > > an > > > insult to MMY and this tradition. > > > > > > --- sparaig <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.businessportal24.com/de/Investigating_The_Field_Effects_Of_ > > 67514.html > > > > > > > > Investigating The Field Effects Of Consciousness > > On > > > > Socioeconomic Indices > > > > 2006/11/06 08:03 > > > > Pressemeldung von: > > > > Medical News TODAY Mexico, 5th November 2006 > > > > > > > > Can the large collective practice of a > > > > scientifically documented stress-reducing > > meditation > > > > > > > > technique positively impact a larger population > > > > through the "field effects of > > > > consciousness"--reducing societal stress, crime, > > and > > > > violence, and improving economic > > > > and climatic trends? > > > > > > > > Yes, according to a rigorous, controlled > > econometric > > > > analysis of the first 100 days of a $12 > > > > million scientific demonstration project to > > monitor > > > > the effects of 1200 advanced > > > > Transcendental Meditation practitioners on U.S. > > > > quality of life indicators. > > > > > > > > The research shows that since the project began > > > > on July 23, the Dow Jones Industrial Index and > > the > > > > S&P 500 have posted total gains of > > > > approximately 12%, and the Nasdaq has climbed > > nearly > > > > 18%--with the Dow repeatedly > > > > hitting all-time record levels, the S&P reaching > > a > > > > 5.5-year high, and the Nasdaq climbing > > > > to a five-year high. > > > > > > > > "The group of advanced meditators are 'creating > > > > coherence in national consciousness'-- > > > > generating confidence, optimism, and positivity > > in > > > > the national mood," said quantum > > > > physicist John Hagelin, Ph.D., the demonstration > > > > project director. "Sociologists as well as > > > > economists are aware that the markets are an > > > > extremely nimble and sensitive barometer of > > > > the collective consciousness." > > > > > > > > The results were presented during a news > > conference > > > > on Wednesday, November 1, at 10 > > > > a.m. CST at Maharishi University of Management > > in > > > > Fairfield, Iowa. > > > > > > > > Panelists included > > > > > > > > * John Hagelin, Ph.D., director of the Institute > > of > > > > Science, Technology and Public Policy; > > > > > > > > * Ken Cavanaugh, Ph.D., professor of applied > > > > statistics and senior research scientist at the > > > > Institute of Science, Technology and Public > > Policy; > > > > > > > > * Fred Travis, Ph.D., director of the Center for > > > > Brain, Consciousness, and Cognition; > > > > > > > > * Robert Schneider, M.D., F.A.C.C., director of > > the > > > > NIH-funded Institute of Natural Medicine > > > > and Prevention > > > > > > > > Dr. Hagelin also lodged a new set of predictions > > for > > > > the demonstration project, since an > > > > additional 500 advanced meditation experts from > > > > India are now joining the group to > > > > further intensify its positive impact. The > > > > predictions include a continued bullish rise in > > the > > > > stock market, a reduction in violent crime rates > > > > nationwide, and progress towards peace in > > > > the Middle East and North Korea. > > > > > > > > > > > > # > > > > > > > > The new research on the effects of collective > > > > meditation on society follows 23 previous > > > > studies published in peer-reviewed journals over > > the > > > > past 25 years. (See http:// > > > > www.permanentpeace.org/.) > > > > > > > > The benefits of the Transcendental Meditation > > > > program for individual health are > > > > scientifically well documented. The National > > > > Institutes of Health has provided $25 million > > > > to study the effects of Transcendental > > Meditation > > > > practice on reducing stress and > > > > preventing and treating cardiovascular disease. > > The > > > > research been published in such peer- > > > > reviewed journals as the American Medical > > > > Association's Archives of Internal Medicine and > > > > the American Heart Association's Hypertension. > > > > > > > > Contact: Ken Chawkin > > > > Maharishi University of Management > > > > www.mum.edu > > > > > > > > Source: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=55688 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > Yahoo! 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