--- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> Barry speaketh the truth newmorn.  Deprive Judy of this venue, and 
> > > it will cause serious re-adjustments in her life.  
> > > 
> > > lurk  
> > 
> >Thats your idle speculation. A view I find laughable and silly. So 
> we
> > disagree. No harm, no foul. 
> > 
> > The salient point, its rather rude to express such even if you 
> beleive
> > it. Thats the 'foul". Its potentially inflamatory.  It like 
> spreading
> > sparks in a dry timeber area. It could trigger a 20-30 post war 
> that
> > clogs FFL's arteries.
> > 
> > And its hardly consistent with FFL guidelines. 
> > 
> > "This group has long maintained a thoughtful and considerate tone.
> > Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive 
> venting.
> > 'Speak the truth that is sweet'"
> > 
> > When you have a rude thought, hey laugh all you want in private. 
> But
> > spare us. Keep it to yourself. The last thing we need are more 
> flame
> > wars. 
> > 
> > Thanks for your consideration.
> 
> Yes, you're right.  I've departed from the restraint I try to 
> generally show.  

Which has been admirable.

>Quite honestly, two days Judy went on rampage 
> striking out at everyone in her self appointed, non ending role 
> of "setting the record straight" 

IMO, setting the record straight is fine. As long as it focusses on
facts and posts. And not extrapolating that into personal attacks.
Which only invoke counter attacks ad naseum.

>It totally poisoned the 
> discussion. 

Personal attack do,IMO. on the other hand, clarifiation is good.


> Certainly Barry has his moments, and he does his share 
> of aiding and abetting but overall I think the group would be 
> greatly diminished without his input.
> 
> lurkadomous
>
I think the group would be diminished without everyones input. Except
when they focus on personal attacks and put downs. In contrast to the
always welcome thoughtful criticisms (or applaudation) of ideas and
posts. 

I think the FFL guidelines are good: 

"This group has long maintained a thoughtful and considerate tone.
Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive 
venting. 'Speak the truth that is sweet'"

Everyone has insights that are a contrbution to the whole. But sadly,
the whole is greatly diminished, IMO, when people focus on character
attacks. And put downs. Cheap thrills. Because they are attacking a
person. And such attacks often explode into large flame-wars, ego
wars, which becomes the sludge dampening FFL's vitality. Hopefully, as
so-called spiritual group can move beyond such play ground antics.






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