--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>I personally 
> > believe that the latter are a made-up set of 
> > techniques that have nothing to do with what 
> > Patanjali was describing, but if others choose 
> > to believe that they're "authentic Patanjali" 
> > and derive some benefit from practicing them, 
> > cool.
> 
> Kind of an odd thing to hear coming from you Turq. 

I don't see why; my stance on the siddhis
hasn't changed since 1978.

> I had unmistakable, repeatable and sustained experiences 
> of siddhis doing the program, and after stopping the practice 
> of it. For you to imply that Maharishi could equal the 
> achievement of Patanjali ...

I know you're trying to be cute, but that's not what
I was implying. I don't think that the TM siddhis
do anything at all; any effect is the result of the
"Dumbo's feather" syndrome, also known as the placebo
effect, also known as moodmaking.

> ...I find an incredible statement coming from you, having 
> said that you don't believe Maharishi is enlightened. That an 
> unenlightened person could equal the cognitions of a legendary 
> saint in just a few years, by trial and error, seems highly 
> unlikely to me. Impossible actually.

Then we are agreed.  :-)



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