--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe that people have genuine experiences 
> > > as a result of practicing the TM siddhis. I'm 
> > > just not convinced that the TM siddhis cause
> > > those experiences.
> > 
> > Do you think Patanjali's techniques are also a
> > placebo?
> 
> I suspect that all techniques of 
> self realization are placebos.
>
If time and space don't exist or don't exist as the agency of the 
creation, then yes- all placebos. However, immersing ourselves in time 
and space as tools to explore self realization, then techniques are 
just that, shortcuts. If I can wait three weeks to drive a nail 
through a pine two by four with my hand, no technique needed, 
otherwise I'll use a hammer. 

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