--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- suziezuzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > How do you judge at what level > > someone's psychosis > > becomes a hazard to the practice and that TM would > > make it worse? > > Anyone who is psychotic should not start TM nor > continue with the practice. Psychosis is a general > term given to someone with symptoms that indicate a > loss of contact with object/consensual reality. They > present with hallucinations and delusions. >
heh. So anyone wh is practicing TM who shows hallucinatios and delusions shouldn't practice TM, even if under teh care of a non-TMing psychaitrist who is aware of the minimalist research on TM and mental health issues? Sounds like you're usurping the physician's role here, which is illegal and unethical, Peter... > > > On another note, what do you think psychosis is? Why > > and how does > > this behavior manifest itself? Do you think it's > > purely an organic > > defect that has some expression in the personality > > such as paranoia? > > I think psychosis, for the most part, is an organic > brain disorder whose symptoms appear in the > psychological domain. > > > > Why does TM make it worse? > > TM makes it worse because in psychosis a person's ego > structures are being over-whelmed. They are losing > their psychological constructs that allow them to > expereince and interact with the object/consensual > world. TM moves the mind towards greater and greater > levels of abstraction which overwhelms these mental > structures even more. Psychotic people can not even > experience ambiguous stimuli (something that does not > have clear, definite meaning) without becoming worse > in seconds. TM is not an effective intervention with > psychotics because it moving the attention in the > "wrong" direction. They need to move the attention > into boundaries, not away from them. I developed a > very effective intervention with psychotics during an > internship I had using what MMY had said during my TTC > regarding the breakdown of mind/body coordination in > schizophrenics. He said you could help schizophrenics > by hitting them with a flower and saying, "flower, > flower," everytime you hit them. This just sat in my > notes for years until I started working in the mental > health field with psychotics. I realized what MMY was > talking about with this intervention. So in groups I > used to pass objects around (e.g., cups, pencils, > books, etc) and each person had to hold the object and > state what their direct experience of the object was > at that moment. No associations, only their direct > experience. This, over time, had an amazing effect of > radically reducing hallucinations and delusions as > noted by myself and other staff members. All very well, but you're generalizing to patients you have never met who are NOT under your supervision. And I'm thinking of a specific individual here, so be warned, you're treading on dangerous territory here.
