--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:47 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >> Some people had a huge amount of attachment to this idea. Some > >> came out of the woodwork to hurl insults or to defend TM. > >> > >> Interestingly some of the most knowledgeable people on the list > >> simply said nothing. > >> > > > > Not knowing whether I am remotely "knowledgeable" or not, > > but knowing that I didn't bother to weigh in on this > > "experiment" at the time, I'll do so now. :-) I agree > > with you that TM, and *most* other methods of meditation > > are dualistic. > > > One of the most interesting reactions I heard (repeatedly) was that I > was presenting or claiming that some (unnamed) Buddhist technique, > which I supposedly practiced--despite the fact I've never claimed to > practice any such technique, nor had I ever claimed to a Buddhist! > > As I was telling Tom T. offlist the other day, my knowledge of this > fact was actually from a visit I made back in the 80's to one of the > peeths of the Holy Shankaracharya Order. A pundit and yogin of that > order kindly asked what my path was, and I naively replied "Adavaita > Vedanta". He was delighted to hear this and asked who my teachers > were and I replied that it was MMY and from SBS. He seemed puzzled by > this and I then explained that I practiced TM. He found that funny. > He explained, in some detail then that TM was actually a dualistic > approach from tantra and was definitely not Advaita. It was very > clear at the time that he was simply speaking the plain truth. As I > later heard this also from another Patanjali and Shankaracharya > pundit, it's clear this is common knowledge. >
It is also erroneous. Not surprising: since virtually no-one outside the TMO teaches effortless transcending, they don't understand that what they are saying about it is plain wrong. Even many former (and likely, current) TM teachers never get the core truth of MMY's teaching. If Barry is correct that MMY "admits" that TM isn't really effortless, then apparently MMY doesn't get it either. That's the beauty of MMY's teaching method, however. You don't have to "get" it, to teach it.
