--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim, still pissed off while claiming he's not:
You are fantasizing...just jerking your chain again, being over the top...I change personas rather easily. I have a *lot* of air in my personality (sometimes fire). You? > > I'm beginning to think that since they both now grow their > > spiritual roots in the medium of a failed tradition (Tibetan > > Buddhism), *all* traditions are then seen as failed. > > Not at all. I can't speak for Vaj, but I view *all* > spiritual traditions, both current and of the past, > as JUST OPINION. Therefore I view Tibetan Buddhism > as JUST OPINION as well. Some of its OPINIONs I agree > with, some I don't. Big whoop. > > > Seeing the world through x colored glasses, and all that. > > Better my color glasses than those worn by someone who > would seriously suggest that TM 1) eliminates suffering > and 2) creates world peace, and present that as if it > were established fact. Nope- we agreed it is just opinion. I happen to believe it, but then I also believe Guru Dev visited me in 1993. Pretty crazy, huh?--So what? It is just my opinion. > > I would say instead, "Some TMers are of the OPINION > that TM 1) eliminates suffering and 2) creates world > peace. They hold this OPINION despite the rather obvious > fact that the world has never been at peace, and despite > the equally obvious fact that the vast majority (and > probably more than that, given the numbers of people > who have stopped practicing TM) have not eliminated > their suffering." Then I would say, "It's perfectly fine > for Jim to believe this, as his OPINION. When he starts > claiming it as fact, then he's crossed the line into > at best solipcism and at worst fanaticism." > It is factually my opinion. lol! My opinion remains that you derive your spiritual growth from a failed tradition. The jury is still out on TM- maybe it fails, maybe it doesn't, but no such ambiguity with Tibetan Buddhism- It has failed. Tibet has been conquered. Case closed. *IMO*.
