--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:40 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> >> I wouldn't fall for it so easily B. The current situation was
> >> predicted not only centuries ago, but also decades before the
> >>
> > current
> >
> >> invasion. The on-coming invasion was reiterated in the early
> >>
> > 1900's,
> >
> >> but the Tibetans, realizing it would raise their taxes, refused
> >>
> > to
> >
> >> amass and/or train armies to protect against the on-coming
> >>
> > invasion.
> >
> >>
> >> And so, the fulfillment of a prophecy came to pass in our
> >>
> > generation:
> >
> >>
> >> "When the iron bird flies, and horses run on wheels, the Tibetan
> >> people will be scattered like ants across the world, and the
> >>
> > Dharma
> >
> >> will come to the land of the red faced people"
> >>
> >> A failure? LOL, I'd say it's been a great success<snip>
> >>
> >
> > You've seen the film "Kundun" I take it? Great success? Hmmm...
I'm
> > sticking with my opinion that it is, and has been, a colossal
> > failure, and I am sure many former Tibetans would agree with me.
> > Perhaps the failure was prophesied, but that doesn't change it
from
> > being a failure.
>
> I'd say it was a failure for the Chinese since they accumulated a
> huge amount of negative karma. I can't say the same for the
Tibetans
> (which of course is not to say that Tibetans are this
wonderfully,
> karmicly pure people--they're just people after all).
>
> Applying your same reasoning say to Nazi Germany, the Jews were a
> great failure and the Germans a great success. Similarly the
Native
> American tribes of North America were a great failure.
>
> I'm sorry Jim, but I don't know that I could ever see genocide as
a
> success and the victims as "failures".
>
You are not following the discussion very closely-- I said the
tradition of Tibetan Buddhism is a colossal failure, which resulted
in great suffering for the former Tibetan people. You have somehow
reversed this in your mind.
