--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> > > The other remark I have about my challenges to you and Vaj > yesterday > > > was that here you sit day after day after day, challenging much > of > > > what TM is and who Maharishi is, and all who respond do so in the > > > context of evaluating TM and Maharishi. > > > > > > So yesterday, understanding that I apply merciless rigor to TM > and > > > Maharishi and the TMO with regard to my acceptance or not of > them, I > > > decided "why should Turq and Vaj be getting a free ride out of > all > > > of this?" Why not apply the same rigor and scrutiny to their > > > practices as I do to my own? > > > > > > And the results were very eye opening, you True Believers > > > you!...Lol! :-) > > > > This is no news. Those two fellows are hardcore religious Budhists. > > > > Sometimes I just wonder why they bother. Their actions here seems > > coordinated. > > > > You brilliantly pointed out that they are jelaous of the self- > > sufficiency of TM. No guru needed, no shaktipat needed, no > retreats > > needed, no fancy ceremonies, no study of anscient obscure texts. > > Unless, ofcourse you actively seek it out within the TMO. > > And, no organized religion. > > > > Just simply 2x20 minutes a day. No wonder they get agitated. > > > > Then pointing out to the obvious fact that Tibetan Budhism is a > > historic failure was like rubbing salt into the open wound. > > > > This Vaj fellow avoided your question; "more experiements ?" for > > obvious reasons. > > > > :-) > > > I found some really creepy stuff regarding sexual abuse by several > Tibetan Buddhist lamas that make the accusations against Maharishi > seem like boy scout stuff. > > And I'll say it again- the only reason I bring this stuff up is to > try to have a balanced discussion here. It just seems so ignorant > for all of us to be searching our souls to gain a balanced view of > TM and Maharishi, while Vaj or whatever his name is, implies all > sorts of awful things about the TM scene, while coming from a > religion that seems a lot worse; impotent on the one hand, and > abusive on the other. Tibetan Buddhism, who needs it? This is the problem within all organized religions, christian, budhist, hindu, sikh, muslim or whatever; they get caught in the web of not understanding the fundamentals of what their founder(s) said and wrote. "Knowledge hits the hard rocks of ignorance" Maharishi Intellectually understanding that they do not measure upp to the fundamental knowledge of the religion they preach, a pressure builds up inside. When it boils over, when the stress becomes too hard to handle anything could happen. Childabuse, even murder, of others or themselves. It's a sad thing stemming from organized religions inability to enable the people to experience "the Kingdom of Heaven within." Not experiencing transcendence they naturally become tense. What they need is a stressrelieving technique.
