--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jim, here's some more fodder for you -- on the Dalai Lama & 
> > > > Tibetan Buddhism's secret agenda for world domination :-)
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/Kalachakra/dec.eng..htm
> > > 
> > > Hi Rory,
> > > 
> > > Thanks- looks interesting. 
> > > 
> > > Of course my intent in all this is more to provide a tour 
> > > of some of the prominent glass houses here in our FFL 
> > > neighborhood. :-)
> > 
> > Jim, with all due respect, I don't think you're fooling
> > anyone. 
> > This is just a suggestion. You can keep on trying to
> > dig up and post as much dirt about the Dalai Lama and 
> > about Tibetan Buddhism as you like. 
> 
> Hi, Actually it was *Rory* who dug up and posted the last bit of 
> dirt about the Dalai Lama and about Tibetan Buddhism, without any 
> prompting from me I should add. (Even taking the paradox of Brahman 
> into account, he and I continue to operate as seperate heads on the 
> same body.) :-)
> 
> Anyway, you reminded me. So here's more dirt:
> 
> From 10-17-1994
> Best-selling Buddhist author accused of sexual abuse 
> www.well.com/conf/media/SF_Free_Press/nov11/guru.html
> $10 million civil suit filed in Santa Cruz by a woman who says 
> Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and 
> Dying, "coerced" her into an intimate relationship 
> 
> By Don Lattin 
> Special to the Free Press 
> 
> SAN FRANCISCO -- …a group of American Buddhist women have launched a 
> campaign to expose the alleged sexual misconduct of a prominent 
> Tibetan lama and best-selling author. 
> 
> Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, is 
> accused of "physical, mental and sexual abuse" in a $10 million 
> civil suit filed last week in Santa Cruz County Superior Court. 
> 
> According to the lawsuit, an anonymous woman identified only 
> as "Janice Doe" came to Rinpoche for spiritual guidance last year at 
> a retreat sponsored by the Rigpa Fellowship meditation center in 
> Santa Cruz, but was "coerced into an intimate relationship" with the 
> Tibetan guru. 
> 
> "Sogyal claimed (she) would be strengthened and healed by having sex 
> with him and that to be hit by a lama was a blessing," the lawsuit 
> states. 
> 
> The suit -- which accuses Rinpoche of fraud, assault and battery, 
> infliction of emotional distress and breach of fiduciary duty -- 
> also charges that the Tibetan lama has "seduced many other female 
> students for his own sexual gratification." 
> 
> Sandra Pawula, spokeswoman for the Rigpa Fellowship of Santa Cruz, 
> one of many meditation centers in the United States, Europe and 
> Australia, declined to comment about the allegations, but said that 
> Rinpoche is not married and does not claim to be a celibate monk. 
> Rinpoche, who lives abroad, could not be reached for comment. The 
> lawsuit follows a letter-writing campaign to the Dalai Lama by 
> American women concerned about alleged sexual exploitation by 
> Rinpoche and several lesser-known Tibetan lamas. 
> 
> "What some of these students have experienced is terrible and most 
> unfortunate," said Tenzin Geyche Tethong, the Dharamsala-based 
> secretary to the Dalai Lama. 
> 
> In a letter sent earlier this year to one of the women, Tethong said 
> Tibetan Buddhist leaders "have been aware of these (allegations) for 
> some years now." 
> 
> Jack Kornfield, founder of Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Marin 
> County, was among a group of two dozen Western teachers who 
> discussed the sexual misconduct of Buddhist teachers with the Dalai 
> Lama last year in India. 
> 
> According to Kornfield, the Tibetan Buddhist leader told the 
> Americans to "always let people know when things are wrong. Put it 
> in the newspapers if you must do so." 
> 
> Another woman allegedly abused by Rinpoche, Victoria Barlow of New 
> York City, said she is "disgusted by the way the Tibetans have 
> manipulated the reverence Westerners have for the Buddhist path." 
> 
> Barlow, 40, said she first met Rinpoche in the mid-1970s, when she 
> was 21, and that she was sexually exploited by him during meditation 
> retreats in New York and Berkeley. 
> 
> "I went to an apartment to see a highly esteemed lama and discuss 
> religion," she said in an interview with the Free Press. "He opened 
> the door without a shirt on and with a beer in his hand." 
> 
> Once they were on the sofa, Barlow said, the Tibetan "lunged at me 
> with sloppy kisses and groping." 
> 
> "I thought I should take it as the deepest compliment that he was 
> interested and basically surrender to him," she said. 
> 
> Sources say the Tibetan Buddhists were trying to handle this issue 
> within their community but decided, especially after the Dalai Lama 
> made the comment about going to the press, to go public now. 
> 
> "The Dalai Lama has known about this for years and done nothing. 
> There is a real code of secrecy and silence," said Barlow. 
> 
> http://www.anandainfo.com/tantric_robes.html
> 
> An excerpt from "The Emperor's Tantric Robes" 
> This article appeared in the Winter 1996 issue of "Tricycle" 
> magazine;
> 
> An Interview with June Campbell on Codes of Secrecy and Silence
> 
> Tricycle: In Traveler in Space, you speak of your own sexual 
> relationship with the late Kalu Rinpoche [1904-1989]. And the 
> revelation was truly shocking to anyone in the West or the East who 
> had known this master. He was considered to be a great Tibetan 
> teacher; who was presented to the world as a celibate yogi. Most of 
> his closest disciples did not know that he had consorts. His secret 
> sexual life seems to have been well protected in his lifetime. 
> 
> Campbell: When I have asked why details of sexual encounters often 
> emerge after a lama's death I have been told that it is because 
> ordinary people might misconstrue events, and lose faith in their 
> lama, thus breaking their own personal vow of faith in him, and also 
> helping to bring about the lama's downfall. Naturally any fall in 
> the status of a lama who outwardly maintained a position of celibacy 
> would threaten the whole hierarchical system of theocratic rule, 
> itself dominated since the 1500's by monasticism, and as a 
> consequence the heart of the society itself.
> 
> The tulku system lay at the center of the monastic way of life, and 
> symbolically depended not only on the exclusion of women, but also 
> on the metaphorical idea of male motherhood and divine succession. 
> Seen in this way, any lamas outwardly transgressing the rules of the 
> system threatened the very life of the system itself.
> 
> Tricycle: Is it your understanding that Kalu Rinpoche broke his 
> vows?
> 
> Campbell: I don't know what his vows were. We never spoke of them. 
> What I do know is that clearly I was not an equal in our 
> relationship. As I understand it, the ideals of tantra are that two 
> people come together in a ritualistic exchange of equally, valued 
> and distinct energies. Ideally, the relationship should be 
> reciprocal, mutual. The female would have to be seen on both sides 
> as being as important as the male in the relationship.
> 
> My relationship with Kalu Rinpoche was not a partnership of equals. 
> When it started. I was in my late twenties. He was almost seventy. 
> He controlled the relationship. I was sworn to secrecy. What I am 
> saying is that it was not a formal ritualistic relationship, nor was 
> it the "tantric" relationship that people might like to imagine.
> 
> http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/EN/deba01.html


You forgot to mention that Tibetan Buddhists
are funny-looking:

http://www.tibetanculture.org/img/photos/dance.gif





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