--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you have to be such a fucking idiot? Leave Tibetan Buddhism alone. > It is only bothering me, and I am not even part of your stupid conversation. > If you guys keep at this shit I will leave the group as I cannot belong to a > place of people slandering my religion. A follower of the Dalai lama gave me > 20,000 bucks after Katrina to help me. Not one of you silly fuckers helped > me for shit. So back the fuck off. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:01 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Jim, here's some more fodder for you -- on the Dalai Lama & > > > > Tibetan Buddhism's secret agenda for world domination :-) > > > > > > > > http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/Kalachakra/dec.eng..htm > > > > > > Hi Rory, > > > > > > Thanks- looks interesting. > > > > > > Of course my intent in all this is more to provide a tour > > > of some of the prominent glass houses here in our FFL > > > neighborhood. :-) > > > > Jim, with all due respect, I don't think you're fooling > > anyone. > > This is just a suggestion. You can keep on trying to > > dig up and post as much dirt about the Dalai Lama and > > about Tibetan Buddhism as you like. > > Hi, Actually it was *Rory* who dug up and posted the last bit of > dirt about the Dalai Lama and about Tibetan Buddhism, without any > prompting from me I should add. (Even taking the paradox of Brahman > into account, he and I continue to operate as seperate heads on the > same body.) :-) > > Anyway, you reminded me. So here's more dirt: > > From 10-17-1994 > Best-selling Buddhist author accused of sexual abuse > www.well.com/conf/media/SF_Free_Press/nov11/guru.html > $10 million civil suit filed in Santa Cruz by a woman who says > Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and > Dying, "coerced" her into an intimate relationship > > By Don Lattin > Special to the Free Press > > SAN FRANCISCO -- .a group of American Buddhist women have launched a > campaign to expose the alleged sexual misconduct of a prominent > Tibetan lama and best-selling author. > > Sogyal Rinpoche, author of the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, is > accused of "physical, mental and sexual abuse" in a $10 million > civil suit filed last week in Santa Cruz County Superior Court. > > According to the lawsuit, an anonymous woman identified only > as "Janice Doe" came to Rinpoche for spiritual guidance last year at > a retreat sponsored by the Rigpa Fellowship meditation center in > Santa Cruz, but was "coerced into an intimate relationship" with the > Tibetan guru. > > "Sogyal claimed (she) would be strengthened and healed by having sex > with him and that to be hit by a lama was a blessing," the lawsuit > states. > > The suit -- which accuses Rinpoche of fraud, assault and battery, > infliction of emotional distress and breach of fiduciary duty -- > also charges that the Tibetan lama has "seduced many other female > students for his own sexual gratification." > > Sandra Pawula, spokeswoman for the Rigpa Fellowship of Santa Cruz, > one of many meditation centers in the United States, Europe and > Australia, declined to comment about the allegations, but said that > Rinpoche is not married and does not claim to be a celibate monk. > Rinpoche, who lives abroad, could not be reached for comment. The > lawsuit follows a letter-writing campaign to the Dalai Lama by > American women concerned about alleged sexual exploitation by > Rinpoche and several lesser-known Tibetan lamas. > > "What some of these students have experienced is terrible and most > unfortunate," said Tenzin Geyche Tethong, the Dharamsala-based > secretary to the Dalai Lama. > > In a letter sent earlier this year to one of the women, Tethong said > Tibetan Buddhist leaders "have been aware of these (allegations) for > some years now." > > Jack Kornfield, founder of Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Marin > County, was among a group of two dozen Western teachers who > discussed the sexual misconduct of Buddhist teachers with the Dalai > Lama last year in India. > > According to Kornfield, the Tibetan Buddhist leader told the > Americans to "always let people know when things are wrong. Put it > in the newspapers if you must do so." > > Another woman allegedly abused by Rinpoche, Victoria Barlow of New > York City, said she is "disgusted by the way the Tibetans have > manipulated the reverence Westerners have for the Buddhist path." > > Barlow, 40, said she first met Rinpoche in the mid-1970s, when she > was 21, and that she was sexually exploited by him during meditation > retreats in New York and Berkeley. > > "I went to an apartment to see a highly esteemed lama and discuss > religion," she said in an interview with the Free Press. "He opened > the door without a shirt on and with a beer in his hand." > > Once they were on the sofa, Barlow said, the Tibetan "lunged at me > with sloppy kisses and groping." > > "I thought I should take it as the deepest compliment that he was > interested and basically surrender to him," she said. > > Sources say the Tibetan Buddhists were trying to handle this issue > within their community but decided, especially after the Dalai Lama > made the comment about going to the press, to go public now. > > "The Dalai Lama has known about this for years and done nothing. > There is a real code of secrecy and silence," said Barlow. > > http://www.anandainfo.com/tantric_robes.html > > An excerpt from "The Emperor's Tantric Robes" > This article appeared in the Winter 1996 issue of "Tricycle" > magazine; > > An Interview with June Campbell on Codes of Secrecy and Silence > > Tricycle: In Traveler in Space, you speak of your own sexual > relationship with the late Kalu Rinpoche [1904-1989]. And the > revelation was truly shocking to anyone in the West or the East who > had known this master. He was considered to be a great Tibetan > teacher; who was presented to the world as a celibate yogi. Most of > his closest disciples did not know that he had consorts. His secret > sexual life seems to have been well protected in his lifetime. > > Campbell: When I have asked why details of sexual encounters often > emerge after a lama's death I have been told that it is because > ordinary people might misconstrue events, and lose faith in their > lama, thus breaking their own personal vow of faith in him, and also > helping to bring about the lama's downfall. Naturally any fall in > the status of a lama who outwardly maintained a position of celibacy > would threaten the whole hierarchical system of theocratic rule, > itself dominated since the 1500's by monasticism, and as a > consequence the heart of the society itself. > > The tulku system lay at the center of the monastic way of life, and > symbolically depended not only on the exclusion of women, but also > on the metaphorical idea of male motherhood and divine succession. > Seen in this way, any lamas outwardly transgressing the rules of the > system threatened the very life of the system itself. > > Tricycle: Is it your understanding that Kalu Rinpoche broke his vows? > > Campbell: I don't know what his vows were. We never spoke of them. > What I do know is that clearly I was not an equal in our > relationship. As I understand it, the ideals of tantra are that two > people come together in a ritualistic exchange of equally, valued > and distinct energies. Ideally, the relationship should be > reciprocal, mutual. The female would have to be seen on both sides > as being as important as the male in the relationship. > > My relationship with Kalu Rinpoche was not a partnership of equals. > When it started. I was in my late twenties. He was almost seventy. > He controlled the relationship. I was sworn to secrecy. What I am > saying is that it was not a formal ritualistic relationship, nor was > it the "tantric" relationship that people might like to imagine. > > http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/EN/deba01.html
Careful now Mr. Flanegin; you could end up with both the CIA and funny looking Tibetans at your door !
