--- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected],
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote:
> >
> > Vaj writes:
> > > > That why invincibility is a myth. It's a selling point
> > > > based on a falsehood. Actually what Patanjali says is
> > > > that ahimsa goes into your surroundings. In many cases
> > > > what that means is, if your neighbor hasn't done the
> > > > same thing, he'll come over and kick the crap out
> > > > of you.
> > Sparegg
> > > Really. Is THAT what YS 2:35 means...
> >
> > Tom T:
> > Shearer version goes as follows:
> > When we are firmly established in non-violence, all beings around us
> > cease to feel hostility.
> >
>
> The original goes like this:
>
> ahiMsaa-pratiSThaayaaM tat-saMnidhau vaira-tyaagaH
>
> saMnidhi m. depositing together or near Ka1tySr. Sa1h. ;
> juxtaposition , nearness , vicinity , presence (**%{au}** , with gen.
> or ifc. , `****" in the presence of , near "' ****
>
> Just for fun, trying to come up with an ultraliteral translation
> might result e.g. to:
>
> non(a)-violence(hiMsaa)-against(prati)-standing(SThaa)-in*(yaam)
> that(tat)-saMnidh[i](see above)-in*(au) hostility(vaira)-abandonment
> (tyaagaH)
>
> *) preposition "in", in Sanskrit in this case the suffixes "yaam"
> and "au" (suffixes of locative singular, which can vary quite
> a lot depending on the inflectional category of a word, or stuff.)
>
Vyaasa's comment is "surprisingly" scarce:
sarva-praaNinaaM (genitive plural from "praaNin"?) bhavati
Perhaps that means something like: /ahiMsaa-pratiSThaa/ "applies"
to all(sarva) creatures(praaNinaH?)
The second sentence of Bhoja-deva's comment goes like:
hiMsraa api hiMsratvaM parityajanti[ityarthaH(iti + arthaH): thus [is]
the purpose?]
hiMsra-s also abandon (parityajanti) "hiMsra-ness" (-tvam)
hiMsra mf(%{A4})n. injurious , mischievous , hurtful , destructive ,
murderous , cruel , fierce , savage (ifc. `" acting injuriously
towards "') RV. &c. &c. [1298,1] ; m. a man who delights in injuring
living creatures Mn. iii , 164 ; a savage animal , beast of prey Ragh.
; N. of S3iva MBh. ; of Bhima-sena L. ; of a certain cruel Bra1hman
Hariv. ;
