--- In [email protected], "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think when you guys start thinking there is a 'they' then > the battle is lost. There is no 'they' on Earth. Conventionally > there are people and cabals. If the Movement got sidetracked > it was from people and cabals. Identify the people and the cabal > and you can know why the Movement got where it is. I think with > MMY being a micromanager you'll find that there is a cabal of > his top controllers who feed MMY information, often incorrect > information, through fear, and then MMY adjests the scenario. > Since things reported to him are not as they really are, MMY's > decision cannot approximate reality.
I understand what you are trying to say, but if people don't tell Maharishi the truth about things, it's because he has established a four-decade history of not wanting to be *told* the truth about things. All you have to do is be in the room when someone tries to tell him something he doesn't want to hear to get the message. The person who is trying to tell him what he doesn't want to hear either has another asshole carved in him, or is ignored and in the next few days finds himself on a bus bound for Somewhere As Far Away As Possible. The message is clear; you'd have to be an idiot *not* to get it. > Simple really. Every leader has a Rasputin. I'm pretty > sure Bevan is as close to that as it gets. But I'm pretty sure that Maharishi *created* Bevan, not the other way around. When you choose to surround your- self with toadies -- especially in an organization that you have designed around the ideal of bhakti -- you're sending a strong message to everyone that being a toady is what counts if you want to get closer to the teacher. > But there are others. What is their motivation? Because they've been brought up on stories of Trotaka and the "right" way of interacting with a spiritual teacher, their motivation is to get themselves into a position where they can be the full-time bhaktininnies they've always dreamed of being. > IMO Bevan's is ego. It's pretty clear by all the puffed > up hyperbole that he stuffs into every sentence. True, with Bevan himself, and with a few of the toadies who are *also* power junkies. But I think the bigger "draw" for most of them is attention. They want the teacher's *attention*, and they'll do whatever they think is necessary to get as much of it as possible. And you don't just see this in the TM movement, as you probably know. It's a staple of almost every spiritual movement with a strong teacher in charge who doesn't strongly *discourage* such behavior. > Thus ego is at the center of the Movement, alongside > spirit. As in every spiritual endeavor. Thus all > those who worship the Movement, worship Bevan and the > other henchmen, not just MMY. I think Bevan has fucked > the whole Movement up. He is the only professional at > the top with no actual skills besides pontification. As underwhelmed as I am (and always have been) by Bevan Morris, I have to disagree. Bevan is only one of *many* toadies, all selected by the same process -- Maharishi giving them his attention on a regular basis. I don't think Bevan has fucked up the TM movement any more than any number of people who have gravitated to the top of its "attention ladder" have. He's just another toady in a long line of toadies. But the *preference* for toadies instead of professionals comes directly from the top, from Maharishi. He values toadyness far more than he does competence. Always has, always will. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sal Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VOOMM Memo (was: Re: Pundits to change salt > into sugar) > > > > On Dec 21, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Peter wrote: > > > >> --- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Yep, and don't forget the bagpipers, the phony > >>> degrees and calling each > >>> other Dr. this and Dr. that. I really think that > >>> the Raja stuff is > >>> almost a natural outgrowth of all the silliness > >>> that's gone on for > >>> decades, it's just more obvious now. > >> > >> It always strikes me as odd that MMY's techniques that > >> I have found to be incredibly powerful in foundational > >> transformations of consciousness are supported and > >> held by an amazingly dysfunctional organization, the > >> TMO. Sort of like an idiot holding the keys to heaven. > > > > Well I always wondered why they took such a great movement, with so > > many devoted followers, and pretty much totally wrecked it. As Marek > > pointed out, now, even when they introduce something that might be of > > value, the motivations are so suspect that most of us don't even > > bother. > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
