--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Can't comment on that. I'm a Buddhist who doesn't 
> even believe that God exists.  :-)

Really? If Buddha-->Buddhism-->Buddhist exists, how can God not 
exist? I'd like to hear your definition of Buddha.

> > This progression of states of consciousness has occurred because 
> > of my dissatisfaction with the previous state of consciousness 
> > (or Someone's dissatisfaction anyway...;-)). 
> 
> That is my entire point. If you are dissatisfied with
> *any* state of consciousness, it's because *you* are
> dissatisfied, not because the state of consciousness
> is less satisfying than any other.

I can see it that way- means the same thing to me.
> 
> > In other words, there were things I wanted to achieve for myself 
> > that were unobtainable at the lesser state of consciousness...
> 
> I would say instead that you *assumed* they were not 
> available to you. Therefore they weren't. 

Hang on-- Broadening the discussion beyond human form, would you 
also say that a chimpanzee doesn't speak English because of some 
self-imposed limitation? Where do you draw the line between self-
imposed limitations and physiologically based limitations? 

Later some-
> thing happened, which you attribute to a shift in 
> your state of consciousness, and you dropped that
> limiting assumption and they were available to you.
> But they were available all along, in every state of
> consciousness you have ever "worn" in this life.
> 
> > ...so I watched myself evolve to the next state. The next state 
> > was then more enjoyable because I was able to accomplish more 
> > for myself.
> 
> And this is a good thing? Some have it that the purpose 
> of spiritual evolution is to accomplish things for others.  :-)

That (accomplishing things for others) could certainly be included 
as a goal for myself.
 
> As you say, it's a fascinating subject, but I don't
> think I have anything more to say about it.
>


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