"hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: purchase land on moon

--- In [email protected], "larry.potter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "hugheshugo"
> <richardhughes103@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "larry.potter"
> > <larry.potter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Israelis purchase land on moon
> > >
> > > Website selling land on moon reports flow of Israeli shoppers
> > > following NASA's decision to build base on moon. The cost - NIS
> 250
> > > (USD 60) per half dunam, in the meantime land sold out
> > > Ynet Published:  01.03.07, 17:21
> > >
> > > In December over one thousand Israelis had purchased land on
the
> > > moon. The price of each plot of land with an area of half a
> dunam
> > > (about 0.123 acres) is NIS 250 (about USD 60) as reported by
the
> > > official moon property's website on Wednesday.
> > >
> > > During the 1970's, the American Dennis Hope registered the moon
> and
> > > all the planets in the solar system except for the planet earth
> > > under his name.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > This guy may think he's selling bits of the moon, but he is sadly
> > mistaken. Nobody owns the moon. Have a read of the "UN outer
space
> > treaty."
> >
> > http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/SpaceLaw/treaties.html
> >
> > I pity the poor fools who have given him money.
> >
> > But then again, if it will help rid the world of a few Zionists
> maybe
> > we should keep quiet.
> >

Dude you obviously missed the point, the buyers are clearly aware of 
the different "legal"
aspect of their purchase.


>
>
> imo, better get rid of the Palys, the planet will be a better 
place.
>
> see some of the paly's mith:
>
>
> Prior to the influx of thousands of eastern European hardworking
> Jews in the second half of XIX c and on, the Land of Israel was
> scarcely populated: majority were religious Jews who lived in the
> holy cities (Tver, Hevron, Tsfat etc.), Druze in the north,
> Bedouins, who wondered all over Negev, Sinai and Tran Jordan
> deserts, and, yes, there were two, I repeat TWO Arab clans. One
> Muslim clan Husseini, and one Christian Nusseibah. That is it. All
> those Arabs, who now call themselves "Palestinians" "Refugees" etc.
> are in fact scavengers who invaded Israel from Egypt, Syria,
Lebanon
> etc. looking for the handouts from the Jews. They are grandchildren
> of scavengers and have no historical, moral or any other right in
> the Land of the Jews.
> Palestine?  Why won't these Arabs call themselves Martians, no
wait,
> Lunatics!

>>>That is the saddest most despicable load of tripe I have read for 
a
long time, wrong in every possible way, you have been brainwashed my
friend, well and truly. <<<

It's very clear that the historic ignorance with a combination of 
strong Arab propaganda
did a good brain wash job on you. See some details below:


>
> Let us examine the truths here:
>
> 1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation.
> There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs
> living in a region that historically has been called many things,
> including "Palestine."
>

>>>Is that a good reason to forcibly evict 50,000 peple from their 
homes?

I have some an Uncle who was stationed there in WW2, he has hideous
stories about the Stern gangs' reign of terror, the original
terrorists-their words not mine. But really, it doesnt matter what P
is called the place was well populated and had been for millenia.  
>>>

I doubt that the dude saw the picture for what it is, Palestine land 
at that point
of time was laid waste with little population, Most Arabs living in 
Palestine today are 
not indigenous to the region. It was not until after the Jews had 
changed deserts and 
swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started 
migrating there.

Just the same the Jews went thru 2000 years, here is a short list 
for you :

135 B.C
Antiochus Epiphanes desecrates Second Jewish Temple; leading to 
Hasmonean Revolt against 
Rome.

70 A.D.
Titus took Jerusalem - second revolt. Over one million Jews killed.

136 A.D.
580,000 men destroyed, 985 towns destroyed - third revolt.

300 A.D.
Purim festival celebrating God's deliverance to Mordecai and the 
Jews through Esther and 
the fasting. Lies spread that Jews kill Christians for sacrifice. 
Emperor Severus also 
said the Jews purchased 90,000 Christians to kill them.

306 A.D.
Council in Spain banned Christians & Jews meeting or marrying.

325 A.D.
Constantine changed the celebration of Easter on the calendar so 
that it did not coincide 
with the Jewish Passover.

379 A.D.
Vicious writing by St. John Chrysostom and St. Ambrose in Milan who 
said: "The Jews are 
the most worthless of all men. They are lecherous, greedy, 
rapacious. They are perfidious 
murderers of Christ. They worship the Devil. Their religion is a 
sickness. The Jews are 
the odious assassins of Christ and for killing God there is no 
expiation possible, no 
indulgence or pardon. Christians may never cease vengeance, and the 
Jew must live in 
servitude forever. God always hated the Jews. It is essential that 
all Christians hate 
them." He was called the Bishop with the Golden Tongue. St. Ambrose, 
Bishop of the Church 
offered to burn the synagogue himself.

395 A.D.
St. Gregory of Nyssa in sermons and writings characterized Jews as 
assassins of the 
Prophets, companions of the Devil, a race of vipers, a Sanhedrin of 
Demons, enemies of all 
that is beautiful, hogs and goats in their lewd grossness.

415 A.D.
Bishop Severus BURNED THE SYNAGOGUE IN THE VILLAGE OF MAGONA. BISHOP 
OF
ALEXANDRIA, ST. CYRIL EXPELLED JEWS FROM ALEXANDRIA AND GAVE THE MOB 
JEWISH PROPERTY.
ACCUSATION of Ritual murder by the Jews during Purim. Christians 
confiscated synagogues in 
ANTIOCH.
These were not hooligans but Church Fathers!
AUGUSTINE, JEROME, AMBROSE AND LESSER SAINTS AS ST. CHRYSOSTROM AND 
CYRIL, added to 
untruths the new ones that Jews were dishonest and prone to sexual 
perversions.

717 A.D.
Jews had to wear special yellow garb. Originated in Islam.

1012 A.D.
Emperor Henry II of Germany expels Jews from Mainz, the beginning of 
persecutions against 
Jews in Germany.

1096 A.D.
First Crusade. Crusaders massacre the Jews of the Rhineland.

1144 A.D.
First recorded blood libel. In Norwich it was alleged that the Jews 
had "bought a 
Christian child before Easter, tortured him with all the tortures 
wherewith our Lord was 
tortured and on Friday hanged him on a rood in hatred of our Lord." 
(England)
This notorious allegation that Jews murder non-Jews, especially 
Christians, in order to 
obtain blood for the Passover or other rituals is a complex of 
deliberate lies, trumped up 
accusations, and popular beliefs about the murder-lust of the Jews 
and their 
blood-thirstiness, based on the conception that Jews hate 
Christianity and mankind in 
general. It is combined with the delusion that Jews are in some way 
not human and must 
have recourse to special remedies and subterfuges in order to appear 
at least outwardly, 
like other men. The blood libel led to trials and massacres of Jews. 
Its origin is rooted 
in ancient almost primordial, concepts concerning the potency and 
energies of blood. It is 
one of the most terrible expressions of human cruelty and credulity. 
These blood rituals 
are expressly forbidden in Judaism. (See Leviticus 17;11 etc.)

1190 A.D.
Massacre of Jews in England.

1215 A.D.
The Jewish badge introduced.

1240 A.D.
Talmud burned in France.

1290 A.D.
Jews expelled from England.

1298 A.D.
Massacre of thousands in Germany, in 146 localities.

1306 A.D.
Expulsion from France.

1348 A.D.
JEWS blamed for the BLACK DEATH. Charge laid to the Jews that they 
POISONED the wells to 
kill CHRISTIANS.

1389 A.D.
MASSACRES in Bohemia, Spain.

1421 A.D.
270 JEWS BURNED AT THE STAKE. In the 14th and 15th centuries the 
Inquisition was more 
intense because the Church and State joined forces. Just being 
Jewish guaranteed 
persecution

1480 A.D.
Inquisition in Spain - Jews and Christians burned at the stake.

1483 A.D.
EXPULSIONS from Warsaw, Sicily, Lithuania, Portugal.

1492 A.D.
ALL JEWS EXPELLED FROM SPAIN.

1506 A.D.
Murders in Lisbon - 4000, "conversos", men, women, and children 
thrown from windows to 
street mobs below, due to preaching by Dominicans against the Jews.

1510 A.D.
EXPELLED from Brandenburg, Germany.

1516 A.D.
Venice initiates the ghetto, the first in Christian Europe.

1544 A.D.
The Reformation. At the end of Martin Luther's life the German 
reformer vilified the Jews 
in violent pamphlets which could not fail to exert their influence. 
But because Calvinists 
were steeped in Old Testament theology, the Dutch people respected 
the Jews as "the 
Chosen" people; and were not anti-Semitic in their faith. The 
reformation was a time of 
turmoil as the Roman Church and feudalism lost their supremacy. 
There was a rising up of 
Nationhood and Luther was a German nationalist. The Talmud was 
seized and burned 
everywhere by Papal authority. Jews in Catholic countries and Polish 
Jews suffered 
greatly. Luther's anti-Semitic writings were later used in anti-
Semitic literature.

1553 A.D.
Rome seized and burned the Talmud by order of the POPE.

1559 A.D.
12,000 copies of Talmud burned in Milan.

1569 A.D.
POPE PIUS V ordered all Jews out of the Papal states.

1593 A.D.
EXPULSIONS from Italy and Bavaria.

1598 A.D.
Ritual murder charge that sent three Jews to their deaths. Execution 
of the supposed 
guilty was done by QUARTERING. (In his book the "Birth of the 
Prison" Michel Foucault 
describes at length the quartering of a condemned man in 1757. It 
was done eventually by 
six horses instead of the four original ones and other means had to 
come in to play due to 
the failure even of six horses as the prisoners limbs were tied to 
ropes harnessed to the 
horses. Each horse pulled in a different direction. One horse fell 
to the ground 
unsuccessfully. Knives had to be used for severing...)

1614 A.D.
JEWS attacked and driven out of Frankfurt, Germany.

1624 A.D.
GHETTO established in Ferrara, Italy.

1648 A.D.
Leader of the Cossacks, in the Ukraine massacres 100,000 Jews and 
destroyed 300 
communities.

1655 A.D.
Massacres of Jews in war against Sweden & Russia by Poland.

1715 A.D.
POPE PIUS VI issues edict against Jews.

1768 A.D.
20,000 Jews in Poland killed.

1805 A.D.
MASSACRE of Jews in Algeria.

1840 A.D.
BLOOD LIBEL in DAMASCUS.

1853 A.D.
BLOOD LIBEL in RUSSIA.

1858 A.D.
THE MORTARA CASE: Catholics abduct a 7 yr. old Jewish child. A 
Catholic servant baptized a 
Jewish child when the child was seriously ill and the church of Rome 
seized the child. 
Outcry had no effect on the POPE.

1879 A.D.
Word anti-Semitism comes into existence.

1881 A.D.
POGROMS BEGAN. The word is of Russian origin. It designates attack, 
accompanied by 
destruction, looting of property, murder, rape. There were three 
major outbreaks in 
Russia. The word designates more particularly the attacks carried 
out by the Christian 
population. Each pogrom surpassed the other in savagery.
KIEV, ODESSA; Here murder of whole families was a common occurrence. 
Partial data are 
available for 530 communities in which 887 major pogroms and 349 
minor pogroms occurred. 
There were 60,000 dead and several times that many were wounded.

1882 A.D.
FIRST ANTI-JEWISH CONGRESS HELD. In Dresden, Germany.

1894 A.D.
ALFRED DREYFUS TRIAL in France. Details follow further on in this 
summary.

1903 A.D.
APPEARANCE of a new issue of the PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION. In 
Russia.
This spectre of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy aiming at reducing the 
Gentiles to slavery 
or extermination loomed up in the medieval Christian imagination and 
grew out of legends 
about well poisonings and plague spreading. It was concocted in 
Paris by an unknown author 
working for the Russian secret police. It was an alleged conference 
of the leaders of 
World Jewry. It was translated into all the world languages. In 1963 
a Spanish edition was 
published. During World War II, the Protocols of the elders of Zion 
became an implicit 
justification for the GENOCIDE of the Jews and Nazi propaganda 
relied on them until the 
last days of the Third Reich. Smaller pamphlets of it have been 
distributed in B.C. 1983 
published in California... Required reading in most Arab countries, 
in schools, to this 
day.

1905 A.D.
Russian pogroms continue. Also in Morocco, Ukraine, 300 dead.

1919 A.D.
3000 Jews killed in Hungarian pogroms.

1920 A.D.
Appearance of ADOLPH HITLER. Also Henry Ford the 1st believes the 
Protocols; and publishes 
anti-Jewish articles in his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent.

1925 A.D.
MEIN KAMPH appears. Hitler's Plan published in Germany.

1933 A.D.
HITLER appointed chancellor in Germany.

1935 A.D.
Hitler writes his Nuremberg Laws which lead to his Final Solution.

1938 A.D.
Burning in AUSTRIA & GERMANY of Synagogues. Jews sent to 
concentration camps. Beginnings 
of the Holocaust.

1939 A.D.
Germany overruns Poland.

1940 A.D.
Gassing, shootings in Polish Ghettos (Jewish).

1941 A.D.
EXPULSION of Jews from the German Reich to Poland. Riots against 
Jews in Iraq.

1942 A.D.
Mass transports of Jews to Belgium & Holland.

1944 A.D.
EXTERMINATION OF HUNGARIAN JEWS.

1945 A.D.
HOLOCAUST Final Count: 6,000,000 Jews slaughtered.

1946 A.D.
Pogroms in Poland - 42 Jews murdered.

1948 A.D.
BIRTH OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL. Also Jewish intellectuals shot in 
Russia.

1952 A.D.
Jews murdered byCommunists, and others disappear. Prague trials. 
Murder of Yiddish 
intellectuals in Russia and many sent to work camps..

1956 A.D.
Jews expelled out of EGYPT.

1967 A.D.
SIX DAY WAR. Also new publication of Elders of Zion in Arabic.

1968 A.D.
Emigration of last remaining Jews in Poland.

1969 A.D.
JEWS EXECUTED IN IRAQ.

1970 A.D.
Beginning of imprisonment in Russia of PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE. 
("Refuseniks")

1980 A.D.
Russian imprisonments carry on throughout the 70's to the 80's.

1982 A.D.
War in Lebanon begins after many years of terrorist attacks against 
the Jews in the Upper 
Galilee area from the vantage point of Beaufort Castle. Many 
Lebanese killed over long 
period of time, but was ignored by the News Media. War in Lebanon 
gets slanted coverage.


> 2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy
> its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at
once.
> She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-called
> territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt.

>>>I think unilaterally declaring a country within someone elses 
borders
amd forcibly evicting the original inhabitants is enough to ruffle
the feathers of neighbouring states. Please read a history book there
is so much more to this. <<<

some else borders ?  WTF you are talking about,  the Brits? do you 
have
some history  knowledge or you just babbles.

to be brief, the Brits controlled the land at that time you are 
mentioning, later on
After the declaration of Israel the Arabs surrounding countries 
decided to go
to was against Israel and at that point inhabitants fled the place, 
those inhabitants
most of them from the Gaza area run out, some came back some moved 
back to
Jordan etc.

>
> 3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was
> certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why
> should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it?
> Because they have terrorists?

>>> Jerusalem happens to be the centre of three of the worlds major
religions, it was stolen after the war in 67 when Israel first went
beyond the borders given to it by the UN. >>>

"stolen " ??   better be correct to say part of it, the west side of 
Jerusalem
 returned back to their original owners, the Jews, who pray in the 
Jewish Quarter
while the East Jerusalem is held by the Moslems. But hey accuracy is 
not
your strongest agenda here, is it....

>
> 4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and open
> city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion within
> its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under
> Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in
> recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and
> persecution?

<<< Free and open? You've obviously never been there. I have by the 
way,
I lived in Israel for a year.  >>>

That's it ? one year ?
When you get to be there for 10 years or more, like myself, maybe it 
will be
a time to consider you for something.
now you got me curious, where exactly in Jerusalem you lived ? I 
know the place
very, very well.

Add to that several years in the Galil where I did my Sidhis.


>
> 5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the
> region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and
> swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started
> migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo,
Egypt.
> Did you know that?

<<< This is the most hateful of Zionist propoganda "we made the 
desert
bloom"   >>>

propaganda no, a true FACT yes.

<<< therefore we have a greater right to it than the original
inhabitants. I dispute that most Arabs in the region are immigrants. 
>>>

If you want to dispute facts it's your call, however History will 
clearly  
tell you that the land was is in a considerable degree empty of 
inhabitants.

<<< Some confusion with the 250,000 jewish settlers on illegally 
siezed
land? And this is the bit that sticks in my throat most of all,
anybody who practises the jewish faith can go and live there but the
original owners cannot, free and democratic? don't make me laugh.  
>>>

Jews were expelled and murdered when they were in exile in other 
countries,
maybe the Jews are fed up of being a scapegoat goat and want their 
small homeland
to be their own again.


>
> The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace is
> a delusion.
>

<<< Quite true, some palestinians just want peace with Israel but a 
lot
want the right to return and even the destruction of Israel. No peace
there, not ever. >>>

ohh so now you pretend to be a prophet and know the future.
give me a break.


> Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they
are
> given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and
> treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and
> forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will
> continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in
> order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the
younger
> generation that has been brainwashed to hate the "occupying enemy."
> Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no
peace.
>
> Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to these
> truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a
> lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that
> everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use
> the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and
again
> until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the
Middle
> East
>

<<<A massive re-education programme? you mean brainwash them to 
forget
the past?  >>>

You proved to be the brained washed one here, I guess the massive 
Arab
propaganda is doing it's thing. Go and do some learning about the 
Jewish history and the Jewish connection to Israel before you spite 
your hate.

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