--- In [email protected], Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
 << I agree with you.  There was never a country called Palestine.  
The territory was called Judea for centuries.  The word Palestine 
means barbarian.  West bank was Jordanian territory till 1967.  Gaza 
strip was Egyptian territory.  >> 

That land was a jewish land which was stolen from them by different 
rulers, Jews went to an exile while other Jews stayed in the land. 
One has to follow history and see the facts as they are.

<< But that does not justify the creation of Israel.  Would America 
agree to part with it's territory for the creation of a Jewish 
state.??  Israel is an artificial state. >>

 <<  Israel was created on the basis of the "Old Testament" Myth 
Crap.  A Complete Dogmatic Nonsense. >>

No, that's mostly Arabs propoganda.  The fact is that the Jews are 
indigenous people on that land who never left, archeological 
excavation proves it, History proves it.

The Jewish presence in "the Holy Land" at times tenuous persisted 
throughout its bloody history.

<< Besides, Israel existed 2,500 years ago.  Ever since the 
Babylonian invasion, that land has not seen independence till the 
20th Century.!  >>

As i said the Jewish presence in the land persisted throughout its 
history, but if you want independece so Israel fought the Arab 
countries and won Indepence at 1948 war.


<<    Arafat was a bloody fraud.  He never really wanted to solve 
the problem.  Keeping the problem alive made his bank account 
swell.  It soon became his money making machine.  >>


You can say that again !








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