--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> 
>  From a Buddhist perpspective there are a number of problems with  
> yagyas, one of which is caste based. Another is that they are  
> explained (metaphysically speaking) by mimamsa, which is predicted on  
> the permanance of objects, specifically the relationships between  
> objects and their names. Buddha Shakyamuni countered that with the  
> fact that all compounded phenomenon are impermanent. I don't believe  
> their insistence on apaurushaya origins (not of human authorship)  
> would wash either.


Within a given incarnation f the entire universe, you can make a case that some 
things are 
premanent, or at least appear to be permanent. Even if Indra gives up his 
Indrahood and 
becomes an ant, there's always another Indra waiting in the wings...


> 
> Nonetheless Buddhist tantrics also perform their own homas, but also  
> can hire out lamas to do them for them. I've done my own tantric  
> rites myself for decades and find that's the best way for me. It's  
> especially helpful when someone is in need and you can help them.
>


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