--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > The "cleanest" religions and spiritual
> > > traditions I've found in history are those who didn't
> > > allow this, and expected their teachers -- *including*
> > > the primary teacher or guru -- to work for a living just
> > > like everybody else, and do their teaching for free.
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, why should spiritual
> > teaching be the only kind of teaching that is
> > not considered to be a job deserving of
> > compensation?
> 
> Just out of curiosity (since it's only my 
> opinion and my opinions are always in flux),
> I'll answer.  :-)
> 
> The short answer is, "For the good of the
> student." The somewhat longer answer is, "For
> the good of the student, by ensuring the highest
> possible state of attention in the teacher."

Not sure why anything you mention wouldn't apply
to teachers across the board, both the pitfalls
and the benefits of either option.

The biggest problem I see with the free option
is that would be much more difficult for a teacher
who has family responsibilities and therefore a
lot less free time.  Or if they take a job that
gives them enough free time to teach as well as
tend to their families, they're likely to be paid
less than they need for their family's support.

That would tend to limit the field of teachers to
those who don't have families, and I'm not at all
sure that would be a good thing for a host of
reasons, for teachers generally, but *especially*
spiritual teachers.

Another drawback is that if a teacher has a
regular job, she can't put all her attention on
her teaching; she's serving two masters, as it
were.  And the more demanding the regular job,
the more conflict between the two.

<snip>
> Having taught in both situations, I can personally
> speak for the benefits of teaching for free. You
> have the constant reminder that you *are* doing
> what you're doing for free, and *for the benefit
> of the student*. The fact that you *are* doing all
> this for free keeps this all-important phrase "for
> the benefit of the student" an ever-present intent in
> your mind. Also, you never have to go through all
> the "Is it more important to teach or to eat this
> month?" stuff that meditation teachers are so 
> familiar with. :-)

I don't understand.  Why would you never have to go
through this?  Seems to me this would be one of the
biggest problems with teaching for free, and not a
problem at all if you're being compensated for
teaching.

<snip>
> In short, I think that spiritual teaching should
> be done for free because it's better for the 
> teacher. It allows him to keep himself in a clean,
> high, shiny state of attention, and keeps his 
> intent clean. And *because* his intent is clean,
> the students benefit more from the teaching.

Again, to the extent that this is valid, I can't
for the life of me figure out why it wouldn't
apply, in principle, to any kind of teacher.  You
don't have to be a spiritual teacher for teaching
to be a "mission."  Or in another sense, all
teaching is spiritual on some level.  Very few
teachers are in it only for the money, for one
reason because teaching generally isn't paid all
that well to begin with.

Which is why it seems rather odious to me to
suggest that teachers teach for money because
they're too lazy to "get a real job."


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