--- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" 
<peterklutz@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "larry.potter"
> > > > > <larry.potter@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: <MDixon6569@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In a message dated 1/10/07 12:02:41 P.M. Central 
Standard 
> > > > Time,  
> > > > > > > jflanegi@ writes:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Take a  chill pill. I sincerely doubt Iran would ever 
> > invade 
> > > > or 
> > > > > > > attack Israel. The  rhetoric from their prez is spun 
to 
> > make 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > seem 
> > > > > > > that way, but it ain't  gonna happen. As usual, the US 
is 
> > > > scaring 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > crap out of some country,  and when the country 
reacts, we 
> > > > say "Oh 
> > > > > > > they are getting ready for an  attack!". The only two 
> > > > countries in 
> > > > > > > the last ten years to invade other  countries are the 
US 
> > and 
> > > > > > Israel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > Yeah, I'll take a chill pill but you need a reality 
check. 
> > > > > > Hezzbola and  
> > > > > > > Hamas picked a fight with Israel this past summer who 
were 
> > > > > > supported directly by  
> > > > > > > Iran probably for the purpose of getting Iran and 
their 
> > > > nuclear 
> > > > > > program off  
> > > > > > > the front pages while the E 8 met in Moscow. No, Iran 
> > isn't 
> > > > going 
> > > > > > to  invade 
> > > > > > > Israel, not with an American army in between them and 
not 
> > when 
> > > > > > they  have their 
> > > > > > > proxy Hezzbola to do it for them.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jim also "forgets" that the recent Israel-Lebanon war 
> > occurred 
> > > > after 
> > > > > > Lebanon via Hezbollah invaded Israel and started a war 
cycle.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "The conflict began when Hezbollah fired Katyusha 
rockets 
> > and 
> > > > > > mortars at Israeli military positions and border 
villages, 
> > > > diverting 
> > > > > > attention from another Hezbollah unit that crossed the 
> > border 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > abducted two Israeli soldiers and killed three others.
[1] 
> > > > Israeli 
> > > > > > troops attempted to rescue the abducted soldiers but 
were 
> > > > > > unsuccessful.
> > > > > > ..
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 11 August 2006, the United Nations Security Council 
> > > > unanimously 
> > > > > > approved UN Resolution 1701 in an effort to end the 
> > hostilities. 
> > > > The 
> > > > > > resolution, which was approved by both Lebanese and 
Israeli 
> > > > > > governments the following days, called for disarmament 
of 
> > > > Hezbollah, 
> > > > > > for withdrawal of Israel from Lebanon... "  
(wikipedia.org)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Israel kept it's part of the 1701 resolution, while 
> > Hezbollah 
> > > > > > didn't, in fact every day under the eye of the UN, 
Hezbollah 
> > is 
> > > > > > getting weapons mainly from Iran and Syria.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Absolutely, though I think more approriate would be to say 
> > that the
> > > > > Israeli defense kicked into action AFTER Iran via 
Hezbollah - 
> > with 
> > > > the
> > > > > government and people of Lebanon as hostages - embarked on
> > > > > indiscriminate killing by shooting rockets into Israel.
> > > > >
> > > > I draw my conclusions partly from the numbers of dead. 
Israel 
> > though 
> > > > they have a much better PR engine kills ten to one hundred 
times 
> > > > more enemies than their enemies do of them, yet they always 
> > position 
> > > > themselves as the victims.
> > > 
> > > Are you seriously expecting people now to be shamed into 
silence 
> > for
> > > the Israelis for being better soldiers?
> > 
> > No, of course not.
> > > 
> > > That's probably one of the most antisemitic and un-American 
> > attitudes
> > > statements I've come across in this collection of 
dysfunctional 
> > humans.
> > > 
> > > Ever heard of the Stockholm syndrome?
> > >
> > You are implying that I am anti-Israeli, and I am not. I am 
saying 
> > that both sides must recognize what they are doing, and not 
continue 
> > to all hold the position that they are somehow 100% right and 
the 
> > other side is 100% wrong. I am not suggesting it is an easy 
thing to 
> > do, just that it is the only way the bloodshed will stop.
> >
> 
> Implying? I'm throwing it your face! 

Proud of that are you?

You really missed that? And how
> can you deny it?
> 
> You errors this time:
> 
> Is any of the parties really claiming to be 100% right and the 
other
> 100% wrong..? Certainly not the Israelis or their government.

That is the way CNN and others report it.
> 
> Are you sure accepting your oversimplified and naive statement
> statement as a fact is the ONLY way "bloodshed will stop?"
>
Suggestions?

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