--- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You're an idiot. > > > snip > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > I see ad hominum attacks didn't take long to surface, I feel right at > > > home, cracker anybody?>> > > > > Incorrect, it was a conclusion based on reasoning. > > You have yet to prove it otherwise. Do you really think that someone > > who is liberated and "merged with the cosmic existence" has bad karma > > associated with them. You completely went off on the wrong track from > > the start and I tried to help you out twice, but your mind was jumping > > around like a crackerjack. > > > > So I merely made a rational conclusion based on observation. > > You took it personally that I called you an idiot, when it was merely > > an example of pure unbiased scientific observation. You know, like > > saying, "the grass is green", that sort of conclusion. > > > > OffWorld > > If MMY had stated only GOOD karma is visited upon his relatives I > would agree, he did not state that however, that is your assumption > and for you to prove....yes?>>
No it is obvious. Very obvious. > > Surely tat walla baba had some kind of bad karma, why would he have > been shot to death......>> Why? I would say bad karma is when a person is in suffering for a very long time. Tat Wala was in bliss one minute, shot in an instance, and in bliss again a few minutes later. In fact, if he was truely enlightened the whole thing would have felt like bliss, and certainly not sad, maybe even funny. > > Although your point is interesting in that, can one achieve full > realization and still have bad karma...or any karma?>> Only Leisha Vidya, "the remains of the yagya", which is basically nothing much except just enough to still have some fun in the activity world. Maharishi's point has always been that you change the experience from 95% small self (and attachment and fear), to 95% enlightenment (fulfillment and bliss). The universe is still the universe, but seen through different glasses. You still need a spur to action to be alive. But the activities (karma) are not overwhelming to consciousness -- that has always been Maharishi's point in my view. Like a line drawn in the air, instead of a line drawn in sand. OffWorld
