--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:35 PM, llundrub wrote: > > > > > They have no Buddhist samayas as these include not despairaging > past > > > masters. > > > > > > Actually Buddha insisted no one accept anything at face value and > to > > question authority: esp. those claiming to be great gurus (I'm > > doubting this would exclude todays McMasters and avatards). The > Dalai > > Lama has also explicitly stated that when things go wrong with a > guru > > (sexcapades, etc.) you need to let everyone know what went down, > even > > putting it in newspapers. Their samayas to their own consciences > are > > intact. > > > > And if the website is correct: they've helped thousands. That's a > > good thing. And they were also the front troops of people really > > standing up and questioning the authority of the TMO. And they > took > > the brunt of TB abuse along with the collective egregore of the > rank- > > and-file believers. It's always been extremely important for > bleeding > > heart TB's to spread misinformation on these first dissenters. > > Hardline TMers hurl themselves on these people like they were > > Palestinians with bombs strapped to their bodies. > > You know, I was on alt.m.t throughout Knapp's tenure > at Trancenet, and Joe Kellet's and Sudarsha's later > campaigns against TM--not to mention Andrew Skolnick's-- > and I don't recall anyone spreading misinformation "on" > them. > > TMers--and not just "hardliners"--did, however, have > to repeatedly correct the misinformation these people > spread about TM. >
Perhaps Vaj would like to watch intaerations during a Wiki article creation? Joe Kellet is helping write thearticle. He knows better than to make the wild assertions that he does on his website.
