--- In [email protected], "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> On Jan 12, 2007, at 12:18 AM, suziezuzie wrote: > >> > >> > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation of Self > >> > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude to Cosmic > >> > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that has > >> > nothing to do with enlightenment? > > > ----Just depends on the system. Because you're probably talking about TM you > should know that it is a technique of tantra based on affirmation of the > divinity of mahalakshmi as the evolutionary shakti of Vishnu the preserver > of life. Because your bija technique is nishkrama or devoid of specific > samkalpa or goal, therefore you will only derive what is known as grace from > the technique. The other movement techniques offered are the other means > offered of recombining the inner and outer, and the reason this matters to > you is that because Hinduism is eternalistic that means you shall have to > petition deities for your reunification. this is the practice of the > purnavidya. > > EG., in shunyatavidya all are one at the base which is empty, and cannot be > summed up as any extreme. Self arising, thus vidya or knowledge and > cognition is available anytime one has the ability to incisively cut through > discursive thought to its base as awareness or light or clarity. If one is > able to constantly affirm their nature as light awareness free from > discursive tendencies even during discursive tendencies then under > techniques of shunyatavidya one may feel the ripple of wholeness from the > emptiness of their reunified inner/outer mandala. And the reason under > shunyata that it's so easy is it take no energy as one need not affirm or > reify any thought structure but simply let them all fall. Having done so > however one takes the final leap into faith and freedom from mentality. > > In either case one will probably seem insane from the outside. But will one > be? Only they can really decide. Are you happy? Can you realize unity? Now? > Or soon? I am for both purna and shunyata vidyas. That's 200 percent minus > nothing = 200 percent. Seems pretty compatible.
Aren't almost all enlightened people thought to be 'crazy' at one time or another. Weren't witches burned alive for having spiritual 'powers'. Wasn't Jesus considered to be 'crazy' by his executioners...(Mocking the king the Jews..). So, if enlightenment were all that easy, to acheive, wouldn't we all be enlightened? Of course some people go off the deep end from time to time; That's just a part of growth. Like a snake shedding it's skin. It's holding on to what is dead and gone, that drives people crazy. 'Let the dead bury the dead'. So, Maharishi came up with some pretty powerful techniques? Some freaked out? He just gave out what was needed and wanted? right? more techniques, more knowledge, more, more, more. Practice together, intensify the experience. Save the world, while doing your practice. The Bagavad Gita says: 'the wise don't confound the ignorant'. Being 'one with all that is', is not the experience of the average person, although the experience maybe becoming more common, we still have a long way to go. R.G. >
