--- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" > <msilver1951@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation > of > > Self > > > > > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude > to > > Cosmic > > > > > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that > > has > > > > > nothing to do with enlightenment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the beginning of CC. > > > > > > > > > > > > The perception that you are outside your body is a pathological > > thing. CC isn't the same. > > > > > > > ************ > > > > Cosmic Consciousness means that one lives 24/7 one's real nature, > > bliss consciousness, and that phenomenal reality, including the > body, > > is experienced as separate from consciousness, although the > > relationship is friendly. It is only in Unity Consciousness that > this > > sense of duality is ended -- one sees a tree as a tree, but the > sense > > of it's being oneself is dominant. > > > > The term 'outside' as in 'outside the body' is used from a physical- > limited understanding, that things are understood to be outside the > body because this is how we experience the world, subject-object > relationships. So for lack of a better word or description, since the > Self is unlimited by space and time, i.e., nonlocalized, the > description, 'outside' in the case of witnessing would refer to 'not > connected' or un connected or disconnected, viewing from a different > point of dimensional-fulness-reality, etc. The idea of being out of > the body also refers to grosser astral perceptions in which a denser > (astral) spirit can move out of the physical-body dimension.
> Witnessing gives an idea of watching but not necessarily from a > distance. > ************ If I'm watching TV, I'm doing do so from a distance. If I'm watching a baseball game at the park, I'm doing so from a distance. The experience of witnessing is an experience of watching from a distance, and the reason why one begins to feel distanced from the body as one grows in consciousness is because one is no longer overwhelmed (due to limited awareness) by physical phenomena. Ultimately, when Cosmic Consciousness is gained, and one is a witness to creation all the time and permanently, even the death of the body, ordinarily an overwhelming experience, has no meaning.
