> > > It doesn't matter why we witness, "because one is no longer > > overwhelmed by physical phenomena" or sense perception. You're hung > > up on the words, 'outside' and 'distance'. From the perspective of > > the unlocalised Self, there is no outside or distance. It witnesses > > Itself as not connected. The same is said about Krishna, while > > creating the universe He is uninvolved, not from a distance or > > outside his creation, but on the level of the Absolute, not > involved. > > There are no considerations of outside or distance with regards to > > Atma, Self or the Absolute or Brahman. They exist everywhere and > > nowhere--The Witness of it's own creation. The scripture that you > > quote uses the words outside or distance merely as a convenience to > > convey a concept that is beyond description, the idea of Witnessing. > > > > ****** > > The state of Cosmic Consciousness is not Brahman (Lord Krishna) or > Unity Consciousness. > > In CC, there is perception of difference between oneself (infinite > consciousness) and phenomenal reality, because although the awareness > of Self is fully developed and cannot be lost, the senses are too > limited to see the infinite. > > This situation is resolved in Unity Consciousness when the range of > the senses extends to celestial values and one sees oneself in every > object of perception.
Right, I agree. You're describing a total polarity of experience, Self on one hand and the phenomenal world on the other with flatness as a kind of reaction of the Self to the world perception. The issue here is whether CC is experienced as a perceived 'distance' or outside-ness of the Self and the object of perception. I don't think they do. It's like the Self is a self contained experience in itself with no reference to something outside or at a distance. It just Is while the objective reality is circumambulating around It. Have you ever felt that the Self is just Being while the body, the objective experience, etc., is moving around it like someone riding in a car and having the sensation of not moving anywhere. Like this, the Self is riding along, not moving while time, space, etc, is apparently moving but in reality, nothing is moving with reference to the Self. The illusion is that we're moving through space and time but this is just a subjective-objective perception. In CC with the duality of Self and experience, with the reference point as the Self, nothing is moving. This would give the idea that there is no outside or distance of Self and objective experience. >
