--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 8:56 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "wgm4u" <wgm4u@> wrote: > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <msilver1951@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In [email protected], "wgm4u" <wgm4u@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just wondering if the 'tradition' starts with MMY. :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't believe that MMY ever claimed that Gurudev taught him > >> TM. > >>>> In fact, I recall him saying > >>>>> that he distilled all that he had learned from Gurudev into a > >>>> single, simple technique that he > >>>>> called Transcendental Meditation. > >>>>> > >>>> If you read the papers by Charles Lutes (the book that was > >> supposed > >>>> to have been written but was never published. Someone posted it > >> on > >>>> this group), he claims Guru Dev did not teach TM to his followers > >>>> but a form of Sri Vidya, Mother Divine worship. Lutes claims that > >>>> before Guru Dev died he entrusted MMY with a teaching of TM as > >> MMY > >>>> teaches it today, mantras, etc. Lutes also claimes that the TM > >>>> techniques was a amethod that had been known by Guru Dev but was > >>>> held back until GD gave it to MMY. Mark > >>> > >>> Fascinating..do you have a link to that particular talk? > >> > >> FWIW, the first volume of the Collected Papers has > >> an introduction by Larry Domash that pretty clearly > >> says MMY developed TM on his own. It's unlikely the > >> intro wasn't approved by MMY, given the importance of > >> that series of books to the movement at the time. > >> > >> The first half of that introduction was posted on > >> alt.meditation.transcendental back in the early > >> '90s; you can find it here: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/34zns4 > >> > >> It's a terrific essay, but if you want to get quickly > >> to the part I mentioned, search for the phrase > >> "unusually talented student" and start reading there. > > > > Thanks............. > > All spin, I would not trust this.
If you think about it for a moment, both stories have their advantages and disadvantages. For MMY to say Guru Dev gave him the TM technique would put Guru Dev's enormous spiritual prestige behind it. But if the technique had failings, that would call Guru Dev's knowledge in question. For MMY to say he himself developed the technique would give *him* prestige, but any failings would be blamed on him. I cited Domash's essay simply to point out that Lutes's story isn't the only one. None of us is in a position to say which is correct; there are arguments for and against the authenticity of each.
