--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I really don't. I have lived with this flip-flop
> > since 1972. There really doesn't appear to be a
> > hierarchical "higher" or "lower" to either the 
> > flip or the flop that I can identify. It's all
> > just what is going on at the time. 
> 
> And it's all just so much FUN! All of it, flip or flop.
> 
> I flip. I flop. I flip. I flop. I never know when it's
> going to happen. Nothing I do or don't do seems to affect
> when or whether it happens. What's not to like about that?
> I mean, I don't know whether I'll wake up tomorrow in a
> realized state of attention or an unrealized one. And 
> it really doesn't matter which. Again:
> 
> A good traveler has no fixed plans
> and is not intent upon arriving. 
> -- Lao-tzu
> 
> This flip-flop thing reminds me of a wonderful line of
> Steven Wright's. He says, "In my house there's this light 
> switch that doesn't do anything. ... Yesterday, I got a 
> call from a woman in Germany. She said, 'Cut it out.'"
> 
> On/Off. On/Off. There is just as much light in the dark
> periods as there is in the light ones.
>
>From an earlier message posted:

There seems to be three states here. one is the state where life is
lived in the dream of illusion, of unquestioning, ruled by ego and
the ego dream. two is the state that barry talks about and enjoys,
where the ego dream is challenged and sometimes destroyed. It is an
exciting stage, as we begin to see that life is more than we
thought, and again and again more than we thought. three is when the
ego dream has been completely dissolved and the reality that was
lived unquestioningly in the first state, and challenged in the
second state is completely absent. Knowledge emerges in this third
state that is fresh and new, constantly. It is no longer owned by
us, or forming any sort of structure that must be defended. There is
no longer anyone to defend it. Life in the other states is seen as
the illusions that they are, and life in this state can only be
understood by those living it. Life becomes a constant surprise,
watching ever fascinated as we are flown from here to there to
everywhere, watching out through the window of Creation.

And just for your sake Barry, I am not frustrated, angry, obsessed, 
making a hierarchical judgment, thinking that Self realization is a 
better state of being, or any other comparison, save what I have 
written here...Maybe this should be a standard clause at the end of 
each of the postings here on FFL? :-) 

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