--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > The following was part of an email exchange 
> > > > > that was forwarded here about a month ago by Rick. 
> > > > > Neither the email, its excellent subject matter, 
> > > > > or the following quote provoked a word of comment 
> > > > > on FFL. One person asked which Dave the author of
> > > > > the email was, but that was it. I "replay" the 
> > > > > quote again, seeing if it gets more comment
> > > > > when presented more in context:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Correctly, correctly but the idea behind this is
> > > > > that one shall not think badly of his master. But 
> > > > > now I would suggest that you think about it for a 
> > > > > moment, whether it is in principle harmful to be 
> > > > > criticized or whether it can be even helpful?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The scriptures even say that criticism helps the 
> > > > > earnest seeker and even the wise, to wash off their 
> > > > > sins and that in reality criticism is a support for 
> > > > > their spiritual development.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Many saints therefore put their loudest critics on 
> > > > > the same level with their most devoted supporters.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The supporters serve the mahatmas and admire them
> > > > > but they also take part in the wealth of their 
> > > > > spiritual strengths; the critics however take nothing 
> > > > > for themselves, they wash only the sins away.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We should be really very grateful for the agreeable 
> > > > > service their criticism does and therefore should not 
> > > > > try to suffocate it."
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Guru Dev
> > > > 
> > > > Guru Dev rocks! I still don't get the context of the 
> > > > quote, because Guru Dev is obviously responding to 
> > > > something initially. Do you have the message number 
> > > > please?
> > > 
> > > 127210
> > >
> > Thanks. I read through the referenced message and it seems to be 
> > talking mainly about censorship, of which I am not an advocate, 
and 
> > never have been.
> > 
> > The deal with a faux-Buddhist trolling on here and consistently 
> > bashing TM and Maharishi is that it prevents discussion of 
nearly 
> > anything else, so instead of just ignoring the guy like I've 
done 
> > for awhile I thought I'd try bashing back. Its kind of fun, 
> > actually, though I'll probably get tired of it at some point.
> 
> 
> Barry left out the context of the story. It's from 'The Whole Thing
> The Real Thing' , a brief biography of Shri Guru Deva, English 
version
> by Prem C. Pasricha - from the Hindi book by Rameswar Tiwari 
> 
> In the story, a guy shows up at Guru Dev's ashram and starts
> criticizing Guru Dev. The ashramites want to throw him out but Guru
> Dev said what Barry quoted above. As the story continued, the 
fellow
> was left to rant for quite a while until he finally got tired. The
> ashramites then prepared him a good meal and gave him 2 rupees so 
he
> could take a horse carriage home and wouldn't have to walk. The 
next
> day the guy returned to the ashram to sing the praises of Guru Dev.
>
I wish I could've been there- makes a lot more sense in this 
version. I have the book- I'll have to read it again soon. Thanks!

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