--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The following was part of an email exchange > > > > > that was forwarded here about a month ago by Rick. > > > > > Neither the email, its excellent subject matter, > > > > > or the following quote provoked a word of comment > > > > > on FFL. One person asked which Dave the author of > > > > > the email was, but that was it. I "replay" the > > > > > quote again, seeing if it gets more comment > > > > > when presented more in context: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Correctly, correctly but the idea behind this is > > > > > that one shall not think badly of his master. But > > > > > now I would suggest that you think about it for a > > > > > moment, whether it is in principle harmful to be > > > > > criticized or whether it can be even helpful? > > > > > > > > > > The scriptures even say that criticism helps the > > > > > earnest seeker and even the wise, to wash off their > > > > > sins and that in reality criticism is a support for > > > > > their spiritual development. > > > > > > > > > > Many saints therefore put their loudest critics on > > > > > the same level with their most devoted supporters. > > > > > > > > > > The supporters serve the mahatmas and admire them > > > > > but they also take part in the wealth of their > > > > > spiritual strengths; the critics however take nothing > > > > > for themselves, they wash only the sins away. > > > > > > > > > > We should be really very grateful for the agreeable > > > > > service their criticism does and therefore should not > > > > > try to suffocate it." > > > > > > > > > > -- Guru Dev > > > > > > > > Guru Dev rocks! I still don't get the context of the > > > > quote, because Guru Dev is obviously responding to > > > > something initially. Do you have the message number > > > > please? > > > > > > 127210 > > > > > Thanks. I read through the referenced message and it seems to be > > talking mainly about censorship, of which I am not an advocate, and > > never have been. > > > > The deal with a faux-Buddhist trolling on here and consistently > > bashing TM and Maharishi is that it prevents discussion of nearly > > anything else, so instead of just ignoring the guy like I've done > > for awhile I thought I'd try bashing back. Its kind of fun, > > actually, though I'll probably get tired of it at some point. > > > Barry left out the context of the story. It's from 'The Whole Thing > The Real Thing' , a brief biography of Shri Guru Deva, English version > by Prem C. Pasricha - from the Hindi book by Rameswar Tiwari > > In the story, a guy shows up at Guru Dev's ashram and starts > criticizing Guru Dev. The ashramites want to throw him out but Guru > Dev said what Barry quoted above. As the story continued, the fellow > was left to rant for quite a while until he finally got tired. The > ashramites then prepared him a good meal and gave him 2 rupees so he > could take a horse carriage home and wouldn't have to walk. The next > day the guy returned to the ashram to sing the praises of Guru Dev. > I wish I could've been there- makes a lot more sense in this version. I have the book- I'll have to read it again soon. Thanks!