--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:27 PM, new.morning wrote:
>
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I think in the style of abuse we're talking about here, what
> >> distinguishes it as abnormal is a power disparity between the
two
> >> parties and less the age disparity--although age to certain
extent
> >> plays into it if you assume some naivete on the part of the
younger
> >> "victim". In that sense power disparity (or even *perceived*
power
> >> disparity) together with the naivete of youth could be potent
factor
> >> for an old "lecher's" success.
> >
> > Power abuse has always been "the" issue for me. Though its not
cyrstal
> > clear what is abuse among consenting adults. In pure power
plays, I
> > would postulate that "hard come ons" by a Bevan or John H., if
done as
> > alleged, was more a power abuse than MMY with a J. But I suppose
a
> > case could be made either way.
> >
> > I have read a variety of accounts, of various teachers, and see
how
> > some students were quite messed up by the relation. OTOH, I have
heard
> > of, and can hypothesize, situations where both parties are happy
with
> > the relationship.
> > \
>
> Two memories stick in my mind. One was one of the "girls" Swami
Rama
> screwed with. I say "girl" because this young woman was the
epitome
> of innocence and mildness. And it was as if she was "shattered",
some
> part of her, from the incidents. Innocence shattered.
>
> The other was one of the stories from the sexie sadie file which
> comes from one of my closest friends. Right after he found out--
he
> was floored, almost "shocky". When he came around he wanted all
the
> teachers to know in our area, so we went to the local potluck and
he
> told them. I'll never ever, ever forget the looks on the faces of
the
> initiators when we told them. It was total outright denial--just
a
> flat, ignorant affect--as if they were pretending (or something
> superimposed on them was pretending) they had not heard one word.
>
Jackass.
