"The time could have been used to enlighten someone with a smile or
opening up the post office door for someone who has too much to carry in."

Nice.


--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 2/20/2007 12:53:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
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>  
>  
> Our perception of what it means to have experiences of Self or  God
> realization from yoga techniques my change as we begin to  understand
> all the states our brain can support. We may decide that these  states
> don't matter as much as ancient people thought they did. I  am
> projecting a lot of my own perspective on what that guy wrote here.  I
> couldn't care less about what my own or anyone else's state  of
> consciousness is, I just want to know what is for lunch. Have  you
> read anything interesting lately? What skills have we acquired  that
> we can express in art or music? Do we treat people well? These  are
> all "relative' concerns, but in my experience, keeping track of  how
> people respond to these questions have much more to do with who  they
> "are" than their inner experiences.
> 
> Take our cyber  relationship. I was interested in your subjective
> experiences when I first  logged in here, but I only post to you now
> because I enjoy what you say  about your appreciation of things in the
> world. You seem to be enjoying  life and that is something I can
> respect and appreciate, not what your  sense of self is while
enjoying it.
> 
> Dennis Miller once said about gay  people that his own orgasm was the
> most interesting thing to him in the  world and your orgasm is the most
> boring thing in the world to him. I feel  the same way about
> consciousness except that I am bored with both of our  states of
> consciousness. It didn't seem to make the changes in people  that
> impress me so I figure it is just one of the many irrelevant  variables
> about people I interact with. So whats for lunch Jim?
> 
> ---  In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[email protected]) ,  "jim_flanegin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[email protected]) ,  "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >  >
> > > Jim: > Sorta like the old expression 'flash is trash',  which I
> > > understood to 
> > > > mean that whatever  flashy experience someone had, the true test 
> > was if 
> > >  > the yoga influenced their life in a positive way. Some of the
most  
> > > > enlightened people I know don't meditate.
> > >  >
> > > 
> > > I can't really say for sure but he may not  just be talking about
> > > flashy experiences. He may be questioning  what it means when you
> > > readjust your sense of self through yoga.  The ancients had a way to
> > > understand it that may not fit  today.
> > > 
> > Your last sentence is intriguing to me. What do  you mean? 
> > 
> > My experience has been that yoga- union with God-  is very much a
self-
> > adjusting phenomenon for me personally, though it  may have been
spoken 
> > of in the past in ways that have to be refreshed  for our present
times.
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> > Andrew does tend to over analyze "What is Enlightenment". I've
read a  few 
> of his books. I agree with the idea that we are all just moving at
our own  
> pace and more concerned about how people treat each other  as a
reflection  of 
> their state of awareness. It is so simple and brings us back to the
here and  
> now rather than projecting the mind into the future. I'm not saying
that 
> looking  ahead a few years down the road is not helpful but too much
intellectual 
> worm  tongueing about enlightenment can only give you a headache and
cause you 
> to  reach for an aspirin. The time could have been used to enlighten
someone  
> with a smile or opening up the post office door for someone who has
too much to 
>  carry in.  Lsoma.
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