--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > http://what-buddha-
taught.net/Books/Ajahn_Chah_Dangers_in_Samadhi.htm
> >
> > Wrong samadhi is where the mind enters calm and there's no
awareness
> > at all. ...the mind enters calm, and we don't want to come out
to
> > investigate anything. We just get stuck on that happiness ...
With
> > right samadhi, no matter what level of calm is reached, there is
> > awareness. There is full mindfulness and clear comprehension.
> >
>
>
> Sigh. Samadhi is where the thalamus stops (or at least extremely
reduces) accepting
> sensory input from the outside world AND stops (or at least
extremely reduces) allowing
> cortical-thalamic-cortical feedback loops, while the brain remains
in a restfully alert state.
>
> There are many things that can be described using the same words
that might be used to
> describe samadhi : "the mind calms down..." however, samadhi is
NOT a state you can
> deliberately induce or hold onto, by its nature, because
any "holding on" or "deliberately"
> implies thinking processes and those go away when the thalamus
stops passing along the
> internal sensory feedback loops we call "thinking."
>
>
> EEG readings of someone in samadhi show that by the time they are
able to consciously
> note that they are in the pure state, they are no longer in that
state, so this is another
> example of the futility of attempting to accurately describe or
hold onto the state.
At the link, the guy appears to be talking
about transcendental-consciousness-by-itself
("wrong samadhi") versus witnessing thoughts
during meditation ("right samadhi").