--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > http://what-buddha- > taught.net/Books/Ajahn_Chah_Dangers_in_Samadhi.htm > > > > > > Wrong samadhi is where the mind enters calm and there's no > awareness > > > at all. ...the mind enters calm, and we don't want to come out > to > > > investigate anything. We just get stuck on that happiness ... > With > > > right samadhi, no matter what level of calm is reached, there is > > > awareness. There is full mindfulness and clear comprehension. > > > > > > > > > Sigh. Samadhi is where the thalamus stops (or at least extremely > reduces) accepting > > sensory input from the outside world AND stops (or at least > extremely reduces) allowing > > cortical-thalamic-cortical feedback loops, while the brain remains > in a restfully alert state. > > > > There are many things that can be described using the same words > that might be used to > > describe samadhi : "the mind calms down..." however, samadhi is > NOT a state you can > > deliberately induce or hold onto, by its nature, because > any "holding on" or "deliberately" > > implies thinking processes and those go away when the thalamus > stops passing along the > > internal sensory feedback loops we call "thinking." > > > > > > EEG readings of someone in samadhi show that by the time they are > able to consciously > > note that they are in the pure state, they are no longer in that > state, so this is another > > example of the futility of attempting to accurately describe or > hold onto the state. > > At the link, the guy appears to be talking > about transcendental-consciousness-by-itself > ("wrong samadhi") versus witnessing thoughts > during meditation ("right samadhi"). >
There's plenty of possibly ways in which "witnessing of thoughts" might take place. Not all of them would fulfill the TM definition of witnessing. Certainly, putting a "right or wrong" spin on what happens during meditation makes whatever happens "unnatural" or at least, "contrived."
