--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Maharishi seems to denounce democracy. ( "Damn Democracy" )  
> > > 
> > > I will never accept this, until I see a bunch of people 
literally 
> > > flying through the air spreading flowers of bliss.   
> > > 
> > >  Until then, I will never give up on democracy (and that is 
> nothing 
> > > to do with Bush's ignorant redneck understanding of the 
> issue....just 
> > > to be clear for you Busheep warmonger retards)
> > > 
> > > Where do you stand?
> > >   Make your case.
> > > 
> > > And...please...don't give us some BS about enlightened Kings.   
> > >  Until they are floating through the air dropping gold and 
bliss 
> > > honey on everyone, they are just dead men walking.
> > > 
> > > Where do you stand on democracy?
> > > 
> > > Let us know
> > 
> > Demo + cracy is a wonderful concept: people going about their own
> > lives with no interference, or in a more less benign way: the
> > oppression of the minority of the majority.
> > 
> > In practice, unfortunately, democracy is neither of this - it's a
> > "system of government" that has proven itself to be highly 
> susceptible
> > to perversion through sow-dissension-and-divide-and-rule attacks 
by
> > small secret lodges of men seeking power. 
> > 
> > This weakness has been exploited on all scales of human 
> organization:
> > from international relations, to inside countries - to this 
list.>>
> 
> 
> That is dangerous talk. Go back a couple of hundred years to when 
> women could not vote, blacks could not vote, commoners were lucky 
to 
> get a vote in most countries, and the majority of people were used 
as 
> slaves for the industrial revolution machine. You forget too easily 
> how people strived for the right to a vote, and reason was that the 
> rulers abused them. Never in history has a King sacrificed anything 
> for the people, except when forced to. They always looked down on 
you 
> and used you as a slave. Not only that, they, as dictators 
exploited 
> and raped other countries across the world like it was their divine 
> right.
> 
> People here have a total misunderstanding of what Maharishi is 
> saying. He is (and always has said) that Brahman is the Charioteer, 
> every person is Royalty, every person is divine being, every person 
> is the Cosmic Administrator, every person in the Ruler of the 
> Universe, every person is a Maharishi. There are no kings and 
> subjects. He has simply been leading you down the garden path with 
> that, in order to have people wake up to their own Godhead. 
> 
> Democracy is imperfect in the US and elsewhere in some respects, 
but 
> you can vote, and enough of you can change things. For example, 
vote 
> for Al Gore (he will stand), he is a TM'r too. 
> 
> 
> OffWorld

I am afraid this voting system in the US a fraud. Voting means 
nothing. Democracy there, and in many other places in thirld world 
countries that the US can be compared to, is a fraud. This what you 
call "democracy" is a fraud, just like "communism" was. Maharishi is 
correct. What you cherish as democracy has no meaning anymore. If you 
cling to this idea indefinately, perhaps you too will have to go :-)

Question. Who won the election in Mexico? 

Answer by Benjamin Creme: Strangely enough, it was an almost 
completely free and fair election, unlike the last two elections in 
the United States – the last one being the most corrupt, I think, 
that has ever taken place in a modern state.
You must make sure that you do not have another election like that. 
Do not stand for it. The voting machines were pre-programmed to 
change every fifth vote for Kerry into one for Bush. Those elections 
were completely false. Ohio was won by Kerry, although he lost it. 
Florida was won by Kerry, so was New Mexico. The result would have 
been completely different but for the corruption. There was a massive 
vote against Bush but also a strong vote for him. But Kerry won the 
election and was denied it, just as in the previous election Al Gore 
won the election and was denied it. The world would be a completely 
different place had either Gore or Kerry become President. You might 
have had Maitreya out in the open now.

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