I agree with OffWorld. Democracy gives the people the chance to get rid of worthless rulers without a civil war. It provides this crucial safety net as a MINIMUM feature. It doesn't stop an "enlightened" Movement that can provide MAXIMUM benefits to society to NATURALLY win power in order to deliver such benefits. But it stops Movements PRETENDING to do so from overstaying their welcome.
Therefore it makes NO SENSE to oppose democracy. It is easier to hide behind a mystique of superiority, as royalty and the nobility did not that long ago, than to face an electorate that can register satisfaction or disatisfaction. This way the voice of the people is HEARD at least whereas typically in undemocratic systems voicing opinions against the ruling elite, even if justified, is dangerous and suppressed, usually brutally so. Apart from deriding democracy I've heard MMY laugh at the concept of human rights.. With such a role model, completely sold on the up-down flow of knowledge and rights, is it a wonder that most of us are resistant to this MISGUIDED trend in the Movement? Talking of women, for instance, look how all the leaders of the Movement now are MEN - women are just "mothers" now. They are all dressed up as if they are Indians - what happened to the idea of "cultural integrity"? Why can't Westerners be THEMSELVES, with their own values etc? The idealization of monarchy assumes truly enlightened and benign rulers - an utopian dream; whereas democracy assumes there will be conflict of interests and unenlightened tendencies around (which can be CLEVERLY camouflaged) hence posits a SAFETY mechanism to MINIMIZE such unfortunate but frequent possibilities, as evidenced by the WHOLE of recorded history so far.. --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Maharishi seems to denounce democracy. ( "Damn Democracy" ) > > > > > > I will never accept this, until I see a bunch of people literally > > > flying through the air spreading flowers of bliss. > > > > > > Until then, I will never give up on democracy (and that is > nothing > > > to do with Bush's ignorant redneck understanding of the > issue....just > > > to be clear for you Busheep warmonger retards) > > > > > > Where do you stand? > > > Make your case. > > > > > > And...please...don't give us some BS about enlightened Kings. > > > Until they are floating through the air dropping gold and bliss > > > honey on everyone, they are just dead men walking. > > > > > > Where do you stand on democracy? > > > > > > Let us know > > > > Demo + cracy is a wonderful concept: people going about their own > > lives with no interference, or in a more less benign way: the > > oppression of the minority of the majority. > > > > In practice, unfortunately, democracy is neither of this - it's a > > "system of government" that has proven itself to be highly > susceptible > > to perversion through sow-dissension-and-divide-and-rule attacks by > > small secret lodges of men seeking power. > > > > This weakness has been exploited on all scales of human > organization: > > from international relations, to inside countries - to this list.>> > > > That is dangerous talk. Go back a couple of hundred years to when > women could not vote, blacks could not vote, commoners were lucky to > get a vote in most countries, and the majority of people were used as > slaves for the industrial revolution machine. You forget too easily > how people strived for the right to a vote, and reason was that the > rulers abused them. Never in history has a King sacrificed anything > for the people, except when forced to. They always looked down on you > and used you as a slave. Not only that, they, as dictators exploited > and raped other countries across the world like it was their divine > right. > > People here have a total misunderstanding of what Maharishi is > saying. He is (and always has said) that Brahman is the Charioteer, > every person is Royalty, every person is divine being, every person > is the Cosmic Administrator, every person in the Ruler of the > Universe, every person is a Maharishi. There are no kings and > subjects. He has simply been leading you down the garden path with > that, in order to have people wake up to their own Godhead. > > Democracy is imperfect in the US and elsewhere in some respects, but > you can vote, and enough of you can change things. For example, vote > for Al Gore (he will stand), he is a TM'r too. > > > OffWorld >
