On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:52 PM, qntmpkt wrote:
---Below (Neo-Advaitin baloney that nothing exists). Factually
incorect. You are confusing nothing as the null-set with relative
existence which "in itself" has no independent existence. By using
the phrase "nothing at all", you fail to discriminate between the two
classes of nothings.
In fact, the "you" - in all people, Enlightened or not,
is "something": some type of biomass AS Consciousness.
By focusing only on the Nothingness aspect of Brahman, you are
basically a dualist.
Did you mean to say "Nihilist"?
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Mr. Duncan Greenlees, Madanapalli, wrote as follows:- One has at
times had vivid flashes of a consciousness whose centre is outside
the normal self and which seems to be inclusive. Without concerning
the mind with philosophical concepts, how would Bhagavan advise us to
work towards getting, retaining and extending those flashes? Does
abhyasa in such experiences involve retirement?
Sri Bhagavan answered: ‘Outside’ - For whom is inside or outside?
They can be only so long as there are the subject and object. For
whom are these two again? They both will resolve into the subject
only. See who is in the subject. The investigation leads you to pure
consciousness beyond the subject. Normal self is the mind. This mind
is with limitations. But pure consciousness is beyond limitations and
reached by investigation asabove outlined.
Getting - Self is always there. One seeks to destroy the obstacles to
the revelation of the Self.
Retaining - Having once gained the Self it will be understood to be
Here and Now. It is never lost.
Extending - There is no extending the Self, for it is always without
contraction or expansion.
Retirement - Abiding in the Self is solitude. Because there is
nothing alien to the Self. Retirement must be from some one place to
another. There is neither the one nor the other apart from the Self.
All being the Self, retirement is impossible and inconsistent.
Abhyasa is investigation into the Self.
- Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
