--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mar 4, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Vaj wrote:
> > >> Any meditation using an OBECT will require subtle intent.
> > >>
> > > Oh, so now it's "subtle effort" required in Buddhist sadhana?
> > >
> > > According to Swami Lakamanjoo, the last living guru of Kashmere
> > > Tantra, all you need to do to begin meditiating is feel the
body as a
> > > whole. It's that simple, Vaj. Just stop your striving!
> >
> >
> > Feeling an object of sensation is still meditation on an object.
> >
>
> Well, at least you understand that much.
>
> What, pray tell, is NOT an object?
>
LOL! good question!
