--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > An ocean of burning bliss lies just below the surface of existence > > and spills into the cells of the brain and body. > > > > When you die, it engulfs you. You cannot escape it. There is nothing > > outside of it. > > > > This is not enlightenment. This is the real experience. > > > > OffWorld > > > > Without the 72 virgins, there is no burning bliss after death. Got > that? Allah Akbar.>>
Lol, there is way more than 72 of them, and they are definitely not virgins. They are highly experienced masters (mistresses) of sexual exchange and ecstasy. Surprised you never knew that. OffWorld > > > > > --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Feeling rather disillusioned right now about enlightenment. Firstly > > > on a personal level - a dead loss. Secondly as regards MMY even if > > he > > > is enlightened there are just too many things that appear "wrong" > > > about it to me - his mismanagement of followers and Movement > > > resources & opportunities, his total lack of any aesthetic sense > > > (witness the ridiculous music and lyrics he's promoting on the > > > Maharishi Channel, which would immediately put off any curious > > > onlooker!); the catalogue of tales of woe outlined in Fairfield > > Life, > > > including insensitive & irresponsible dealings with distressed > > > meditators and sexual misconduct from MMY downwards in the > > hierarchy, > > > some of which MUST be true; Mohammed's legacy of holy war and > > suicide > > > bombers and the appalling mistreatment of women and other innocent > > > victims at the hands of Islam - a complete turn off. Christianity > > and > > > its obsessive tunnel vision about sexual morality and its pathetic > > > history of unenlightened action - another religion down the drain; > > > Buddhism seems noble enough but Buddha never found a God and can > > only > > > point the way; moreover the premise that action and reaction on a > > > moral level requires other lifetimes to work itself through (in > > order > > > to reflect how cause and effect are evidenced in the physical world) > > > does not seem a logical necessity, especially in the absence of a > > > moral God or evidence of morality in Nature as a whole. It is thus > > > possible to agree with Buddha that life is suffering but to > > disagree > > > with his solution, to eliminate it via Nirvana after lifetimes of > > > purification. Finally the exchanges typical in Fairfield life lead > > me > > > to conclude that many people have had more fortunate experiences > > than > > > myself with TM, that such experiences may even be interpreted by > > the > > > individuals concerned as hallmarks of enlightenment, but in the end > > > what do they really signify? There is an admission that > > enlightenment > > > doesn't actually morally improve the individual - we see such > > > individuals behaving childishly enough in FF Life. They are no > > great > > > inspirational figures - no Gandhi or Mandela equivalents here. > > > Neither of those in any case were more than great HUMANISTIC icons. > > > What about the saints? I recently read a biography of St. Francis > > and > > > was thoroughly disappointed by his limited Christian vision - tried > > > to join the Crusades to convert the infidel Islamists. A Bin Laden > > > equivalent of the Middle Ages, perhaps, although he seemed at least > > > to have some truly mystical revelations. Anyway what I'm trying to > > > say is that everyone thinks THEIR guru or scripture or religious > > > prophet or saviour is so special - but from an objective > > perspective > > > they are NOT truly enlightened and neither are their biggoted > > > followers. If everything is relative there is still some scope in > > > following a personal vision, following one's inner Light, for the > > > enhancement of personal and social life, and it may still be true > > > that some visions might be better than others, but unfortunately > > none > > > so far has really stood out as really outstanding in a really > > > thorough sense, from my perspective. Not sure how this will be > > > received by FF Life - but makes little difference in any case!! > > > > > >
