--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > An ocean of burning bliss lies just below the surface of > > existence > > > > and spills into the cells of the brain and body. > > > > > > > > When you die, it engulfs you. You cannot escape it. There is > > nothing > > > > outside of it. > > > > > > > > This is not enlightenment. This is the real experience. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > Without the 72 virgins, there is no burning bliss after death. Got > > > that? Allah Akbar.>> > > > > Lol, there is way more than 72 of them, and they are definitely not > > virgins. They are highly experienced masters (mistresses) of sexual > > exchange and ecstasy. Surprised you never knew that. > > > > OffWorld > > As a materialist I am trying to rack up my 72 here on earth! >>
There's always TurquoiseB's method. The mighty dollar can get him anything in France. <<<I agree > that experience is the key to bliss. That virgin crap is overrated > ego trip!>> Definitely. Gimme the experienced only. OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Feeling rather disillusioned right now about enlightenment. > > Firstly > > > > > on a personal level - a dead loss. Secondly as regards MMY even > > if > > > > he > > > > > is enlightened there are just too many things that > > appear "wrong" > > > > > about it to me - his mismanagement of followers and Movement > > > > > resources & opportunities, his total lack of any aesthetic > > sense > > > > > (witness the ridiculous music and lyrics he's promoting on the > > > > > Maharishi Channel, which would immediately put off any curious > > > > > onlooker!); the catalogue of tales of woe outlined in Fairfield > > > > Life, > > > > > including insensitive & irresponsible dealings with distressed > > > > > meditators and sexual misconduct from MMY downwards in the > > > > hierarchy, > > > > > some of which MUST be true; Mohammed's legacy of holy war and > > > > suicide > > > > > bombers and the appalling mistreatment of women and other > > innocent > > > > > victims at the hands of Islam - a complete turn off. > > Christianity > > > > and > > > > > its obsessive tunnel vision about sexual morality and its > > pathetic > > > > > history of unenlightened action - another religion down the > > drain; > > > > > Buddhism seems noble enough but Buddha never found a God and > > can > > > > only > > > > > point the way; moreover the premise that action and reaction on > > a > > > > > moral level requires other lifetimes to work itself through (in > > > > order > > > > > to reflect how cause and effect are evidenced in the physical > > world) > > > > > does not seem a logical necessity, especially in the absence > > of a > > > > > moral God or evidence of morality in Nature as a whole. It is > > thus > > > > > possible to agree with Buddha that life is suffering but to > > > > disagree > > > > > with his solution, to eliminate it via Nirvana after lifetimes > > of > > > > > purification. Finally the exchanges typical in Fairfield life > > lead > > > > me > > > > > to conclude that many people have had more fortunate > > experiences > > > > than > > > > > myself with TM, that such experiences may even be interpreted > > by > > > > the > > > > > individuals concerned as hallmarks of enlightenment, but in the > > end > > > > > what do they really signify? There is an admission that > > > > enlightenment > > > > > doesn't actually morally improve the individual - we see such > > > > > individuals behaving childishly enough in FF Life. They are no > > > > great > > > > > inspirational figures - no Gandhi or Mandela equivalents here. > > > > > Neither of those in any case were more than great HUMANISTIC > > icons. > > > > > What about the saints? I recently read a biography of St. > > Francis > > > > and > > > > > was thoroughly disappointed by his limited Christian vision - > > tried > > > > > to join the Crusades to convert the infidel Islamists. A Bin > > Laden > > > > > equivalent of the Middle Ages, perhaps, although he seemed at > > least > > > > > to have some truly mystical revelations. Anyway what I'm trying > > to > > > > > say is that everyone thinks THEIR guru or scripture or > > religious > > > > > prophet or saviour is so special - but from an objective > > > > perspective > > > > > they are NOT truly enlightened and neither are their biggoted > > > > > followers. If everything is relative there is still some scope > > in > > > > > following a personal vision, following one's inner Light, for > > the > > > > > enhancement of personal and social life, and it may still be > > true > > > > > that some visions might be better than others, but > > unfortunately > > > > none > > > > > so far has really stood out as really outstanding in a really > > > > > thorough sense, from my perspective. Not sure how this will be > > > > > received by FF Life - but makes little difference in any case!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
